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How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft

Posted By: V194

How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 11/30/11 01:20 AM

In a 96 Voyager?
Trying to anticipate the labor cost.
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 11/30/11 01:26 AM

IN a shop with air-tools ? ... 1/2 hour.
Posted By: 71yelladustr

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 11/30/11 01:47 AM

Most shops will charge you between 1 to 2 hours to change it tho.
Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 11/30/11 01:52 AM

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IN a shop with air-tools ? ... 1/2 hour.




I don't know if most of us would get it apart in a half hour. That thing's been together for better than 15 years.

Even with air tools, unless you plan on replacing some other parts you bust by blowing it apart, I'ld bank on a couple of hours. Give or take.

If the knuckle has been off recently, then it would go a lot quicker.

Posted By: V194

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 11/30/11 02:18 AM

Thanks.
Its on its third transmission and second engine.
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 11/30/11 02:45 AM

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IN a shop with air-tools ? ... 1/2 hour.




I don't know if most of us would get it apart in a half hour. That thing's been together for better than 15 years.

Even with air tools, unless you plan on replacing some other parts you bust by blowing it apart, I'ld bank on a couple of hours. Give or take.

If the knuckle has been off recently, then it would go a lot quicker.






Last year ...on my '90 Caravan ...a 5 speed half-shaft ...... me and a bud ...on his lift with air ....NO MORE than 20 minutes. And it had never been taken apart before.

A couple of hours? ... ...maybe taking a couple of breaks with a few pizzas and a case of beer ..
Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 11/30/11 10:13 AM

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IN a shop with air-tools ? ... 1/2 hour.




I don't know if most of us would get it apart in a half hour. That thing's been together for better than 15 years.

Even with air tools, unless you plan on replacing some other parts you bust by blowing it apart, I'ld bank on a couple of hours. Give or take.

If the knuckle has been off recently, then it would go a lot quicker.






Last year ...on my '90 Caravan ...a 5 speed half-shaft ...... me and a bud ...on his lift with air ....NO MORE than 20 minutes. And it had never been taken apart before.

A couple of hours? ... ...maybe taking a couple of breaks with a few pizzas and a case of beer ..




Well, I've done my share of these and it just sounds like you're a lot faster than me, Doc. Maybe I could get you to come over and do my next one?
Posted By: dodgeboy11

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/01/11 06:50 AM

Jack it up, slap a jacks tand under the frame, yank the wheel and zip the nut off the half shaft. Pull the lower ball joint nut and pop loose. Tap the half shaft through the hub, pry the other half loose from the transaxle (provided it's not a bolt together issue), pull the rotor away from the half shaft and pull the half shaft out of the way. Reassemble in the reverse order.
Course if it's one of those [Email]b@stards[/Email] that you can't remove the lower joint without first removing the cv axle (because it's in the way), you may have to disconnect the knuckle from the top side, however you have to do it. Just don't loosen anything up that adjusts alignment.
Just found a blown up image on google and if it's accurate, you should be able to remove the lower ball joint nut, pop it loose from the knuckle, and get enough clearance that way. Be careful not to damage the dust boot on the ball joint. You may have to pop the tie rod end loose as well and possibly hang the caliper somewhere else so the line doesn't limit how far you can move the hub out of the way.
Just realized you said anticipate the labor costs. I suggest calling around. Find out if it's cheaper to buy your own parts and bring them or have them supply the parts. Sometimes parts stores give shops a break on parts costs so the shop can mark things up a bit and make some money on parts as well as labor. I'm mentioning this because where I work, we get such decent prices on parts that when we mark them up, they often come in cheaper than what Joe off the street would pay just by walking into the same parts store. Some food for thought, don't automatically think the shop is ripping you off on parts.
Posted By: V194

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/01/11 01:19 PM

It cost $90 in labor per side plus $70 for the shaft each total was around $390.00
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/01/11 01:28 PM

I think book time is 1 hour.
Mopar warrenty times is something like .6 tenths

Sounds like your price is in line.
Posted By: bboogieart

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/01/11 03:33 PM

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Most shops will charge you between 1 to 2 hours to change it tho.





This is how they make money, the book says 2 hours it gets charged for 2 hours. Get it done sooner and you are making money. I know several guys that put out supposedly 12 to 18 hours in an 8 hour day.
Posted By: 62maxwgn

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/02/11 01:10 AM

I have a frind with a shop,takes him about twenty minutes.
Posted By: 71yelladustr

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/02/11 01:42 AM

I bet he will charge the customer for more than 20 minutes! Its not about how long it takes, its more about what the job pays. Thats how technicans make money. Though sometimes it does not always work in their favor. Having the right tools and the know how is got to be worth something.
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/02/11 02:46 AM

How quick they come apart really depends on where you are. I just had to change the front wheel bearing my my SIL's GMC 4x4. Never did it before so I googled it and there we a number of YouTube video's out there, all of them saying "you will spend hours with hammer, chisels,, gas wrench, etc. getting the old bearing out". Took my 15 minutes to swap them. I do not live where rust is an issue, nor salt.

I changed a number of CV shafts out in my 86 Daytona, similar to the Caravan's setup. I could do both in 30 minutes without having to touch the ball joints. Jack up car, pull tires, remove axle nut, smack end of axle stub with a hammer to pop it loose, crank the steering wheel all the way over (opposite direction from the side you are working on), pull shaft out, put in new, reassemble. Air tools though.
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/02/11 05:18 AM

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I could do both in 30 minutes without having to touch the ball joints.







...do I hear "bidding" TWENTY MINUTES for both ? ..

You SLACKERS saying 1 to 2 hours for ONE ....
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/02/11 01:46 PM

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How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft In a 96 Voyager?
Trying to anticipate the labor cost.





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Most shops will charge you between 1 to 2 hours to change it tho.




This ...

How long it actually takes and what you actually get charged are 2 different things.

It seems that some people do not understand what they are reading or know how to actually answer a question.
Posted By: gtx6970

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/02/11 01:49 PM

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I could do both in 30 minutes without having to touch the ball joints.







...do I hear "bidding" TWENTY MINUTES for both ? ..

You SLACKERS saying 1 to 2 hours for ONE ....




Never did I say it would take an hour . Depending on model and year book time is between 1 and 1.5 hours per side. Flat rate techs get paid book time. So if they can do it under this time, they MAKE money. Should it take them More than book time, guess what they LOSE money. Welcome to the world of a flat rate tech.

With NO problems I could probably do both sides in 20 minutes from the time it's racked to the time it's back down on the floor, this is NO test drive and NO ck out time.

Am I going to charge more than that?????,
you bet your cotten picken butt I am, tools and knowledge ARE worth something.
Posted By: elitecustombody

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/02/11 02:23 PM

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I bet he will charge the customer for more than 20 minutes! Its not about how long it takes, its more about what the job pays. Thats how technicans make money. Though sometimes it does not always work in their favor. Having the right tools and the know how is got to be worth something.




Posted By: dogdays

Re: How long does it take to replace a CV axle shaft - 12/02/11 03:32 PM

It'll cost whatever the flat rate says plus incidentals and tax. Call the service writer and he should be able to tell you TO THE PENNY what the charge will be. No need to guess.

I used to be upset at those $80/hr (now closer to $150/hr) labor rates until I thought about how much money I'd have to handle in a day to pay for overhead and insurance and a wage if I was in business for myself. It'll flat floor you when you think in those terms. And that's every day. There's no garage fairy doling out money to needy shop owners. Even the large auto dealerships stay in business by selling service.

So if you can't pay the time, don't do the crime. I do most of my own work because I can't afford $80 to change transmission fluid on a car with no changeable filter. Just drain and refill, $80. Five quarts at $6 a quart because it's an import using special synthetic was my total outlay. Changing 4 spark plugs and new wires on a DOHC motor with the plugs right on top? $150. Cost me $48. But my garage is already paid for and I have a fulltime job. Home labor pays $0.

Someone else mentioned knowledge and tools. That's huge. Take away either and you are looking at the possibility of enormous bills to make it right after you have boogered it up. Also, I am an engineer. What makes me twice as valuable as a kid fresh out of college? Experience and specialized knowledge that you don't get in school. That's all, but it's major.

Off my soapbox,
R.
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