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aluminum intake installation

Posted By: Anonymous

aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 12:25 PM

This is my 1st attempt at rebuilding an engine.
I have a 440 with new Edelbrock Alum. heads and Performer manifold. When trying to install the manifold, the bolts will not go in straight. If I don't use the gaskets, I can bolt everything together, but, with gaskets, the bolts will not thread. I heard from some folks that I should discard the gaskets and RTV it only. Has anyone had this problem. The block has not been decked and the heads, valley pan, and intake are new.
Posted By: Dart 340

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 12:31 PM

Who made the gasket? I have had big problems with
Mopar Performance gaskets. They are crap. Nothing
but problems for me. Others may have had luck.

Mr Gasket makes a nice one, and Felpro also.

My 2 cents is stay away from the silicone and use
a good quality gasket.
Posted By: calrobb2000

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 12:34 PM

hi
use the valley pan only with a SMALL bead of sylicone around all ports and bolt holes an a dab in each corner where the heads and block meet!
running between bolt holes and ports also .
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 12:42 PM

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hi
use the valley pan only with a SMALL bead of sylicone around all ports and bolt holes an a dab in each corner where the heads and block meet!
running between bolt holes and ports also .



I use that copper spray gasket on both sides of the gasket and run a nice nead in each corner with sylicone... The paper gaskets are there in case the intake or heads have been cut. If it lines up good w/o the pan, the pan is all you need.
Posted By: Dart 340

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 12:56 PM

Not that it matters, but if you read the service manual they tell you absolutely do not use sealant
except for where the side gaskets meet the valley
gaskets. Mr. Gasket has a nice bead of silicone pre
formed around everything on the sides, Fel-Pro gaskets have a formed rib around everything that crushes. Just my .02$
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 12:59 PM

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Not that it matters, but if you read the service manual they tell you absolutely do not use sealant
except for where the side gaskets meet the valley
gaskets. Mr. Gasket has a nice bead of silicone pre
formed around everything on the sides, Fel-Pro gaskets have a formed rib around everything that crushes. Just my .02$



That and use the pan only.
Posted By: GTXKen

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 01:40 PM

I've never used the gaskets, just the tin with a dab of copper or black rtv in the corners.


Ken
Posted By: 71383beep

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 01:50 PM



It should go in with just the metal pan and great stuff in the corners.

I know you said that YOU did not mill the heads, block, or intake, but it sounds like some milling on something was done in the past to give you the problems you are experienceing. You may want to have a few thousandths shaved off of the intake to make it fit well because you may get her to bolt on to the motor okay, but it doesn't need to be off much to suck oil into the intake runners and give you a vacum leak...I know this from past experience BTW.
Posted By: hemiluver

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 01:59 PM

Hi,
Yea I think most guys run into this problem! You can run it without gaskets and use RTV but I would rather not. I dont like RTV around the intake ports because if you read about it,it breaks down when exposed to fuel. I have done it without problem but instead I use the RIGHT STUFF they sell it at Napa-works awesome. Another thing is theres a guy on ebay selling really thin (I think .018 thick gaskets)compared to .045 (If I remember)Mopar performance and Felpro thick gaskets.-Gary
Posted By: Dart 340

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 02:32 PM

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Hi,
Yea I think most guys run into this problem! You can run it without gaskets and use RTV but I would rather not. I dont like RTV around the intake ports because if you read about it,it breaks down when exposed to fuel. I have done it without problem but instead I use the RIGHT STUFF they sell it at Napa-works awesome. Another thing is theres a guy on ebay selling really thin (I think .018 thick gaskets)compared to .045 (If I remember)Mopar performance and Felpro thick gaskets.-Gary




RTV is not the best for a couple of reasons. I don't want this to turn into a silicone post though. Silicone isn't the best for any pressure seals because it's durometer is so soft. Now that said, there is a high pressure silicone available that you can find at a parts store. I think it's grey in color. Might be the best option if you are set on silicone.

I dont mind a little oil leak or even a little vacuum leak or even burning a little oil, but man I sure hate antifreeze in my oil........ just make sure it's sealed up good.
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 03:31 PM

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but man I sure hate antifreeze in my oil........ just make sure it's sealed up good.



AIN'T gonna happen with a big block intake.
Posted By: Dart 340

Re: aluminum intake installation - 05/20/08 03:39 PM

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but man I sure hate antifreeze in my oil........ just make sure it's sealed up good.



AIN'T gonna happen with a big block intake.




Yep, very true. Just figuring small block guys are also reading this.
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