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Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid

Posted By: Morty426

Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 12:35 AM

For my 71 Challenger R/T restoration project.

Should / can I use Dot 5 over Dot 3? Everything is new or rebuilt.

Posted By: OzHemi

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 12:42 AM

I've used dot 5 in the Torana after building it all from scratch with new stuff....no problems and if you do spill it doesn't matter
Posted By: mikemee1331

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 12:49 AM

dot 3 and 4 both produce water and eventually will rust out your lines/parts. dot 5 is silicone based and won't do that. if you use 5, you can ONLY use 5.
Posted By: 71scamp440

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 04:21 PM

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I've used dot 5 in the Torana after building it all from scratch with new stuff....no problems and if you do spill it doesn't matter



Posted By: HPMike

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 04:35 PM

Ive used DOT5 on all my own and all customers vehicles and never had a single issue. Some say its not safe to use, I dunno. All i'll say is one single mishap with the DOT 3 and the paint will be destroyed..If that's not enough to scare anyone, then

You could bathe the car in DOT 5 and there will be no issues.

MB
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 05:16 PM

My paint job cost......well, more than I care to admit, so using DOT 5 is a no-brainer. Also FWIW, despite the urban myth, your brakes will still work and your car will not explode spontaneously if you mix a little DOT 3, 4 or 5.1 in.


Dave
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 05:20 PM

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Also FWIW, despite the urban myth, your brakes will still work and your car will not explode spontaneously if you mix a little DOT 3, 4 or 5.1 in.


Dave






This guy was just topping off his car with some Dot 3, despite having had Dot 5 in it previously...

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Posted By: cogen80

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 05:43 PM

lmao
Posted By: RoadRunner

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 05:55 PM

Yep, DOT5 in my car. I had done a road ralley last year and was onthe brakes pretty hard. Non-power discs. I had no issues. I had all new components. One trick someone told me about was to place the open can in a pan of boiling water. It could be a romur, but DOT5 will entrain air a little easier. So by heating it up, you are expanding the bubbles enough to rise to the surface. I did it, I figured it couldn't hurt.
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 06:02 PM




Dave
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 06:07 PM

And this lady mixed Dot 4 with Dot 5....



Posted By: gtx6970

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 07:00 PM

I've used Dot 5 in every car I've done in the past 10 years. Haven't had an issue yet that I attribute to the fluid.
Posted By: cogen80

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 07:24 PM

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dot 3 and 4 both produce water and eventually will rust out your lines/parts. dot 5 is silicone based and won't do that. if you use 5, you can ONLY use 5.




produce water? they absorb moisture which can rust your entire system. the dot5 doesn't absorb moisture but i have read that since it doesn't absorb moisture that the moisture can collect at the wheel cyl and calipers. just bleed the system once a year and you should be fine.
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 09:35 PM

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dot 3 and 4 both produce water and eventually will rust out your lines/parts. dot 5 is silicone based and won't do that. if you use 5, you can ONLY use 5.




produce water? they absorb moisture which can rust your entire system. the dot5 doesn't absorb moisture but i have read that since it doesn't absorb moisture that the moisture can collect at the wheel cyl and calipers. just bleed the system once a year and you should be fine.




the correct term is "Hygroscopic" which means that a substance readily absorbs moisture. Dot 4 (and the other polyethylene glycol based fluids) is hygroscopic and will absorb water from the atmosphere.....which is why you aren't supposed to use old fluid, particularly if it has had the lid off for some time. Moisture absorbed by polyethelene glycol brake fluid will rust all interior components of the brake system over time.

Dot 5 (not 5.1) is silicone based and will not absorb moisture. Since Dot 5 won't absorb the moisture, there is no danger of rust from water in the brake fluid, BUT any moisture in the system will tend to migrate to a dead end or high spot and rust in that area would then be free to form. Frequent use, bleeding or the use of stainless steel brake lines and components are methods of combating this corrosion.

There, clear as mud?

Dave
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 09:35 PM

Thanks guys - DOT 5 it will be.
Posted By: cogen80

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 09:39 PM

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dot 3 and 4 both produce water and eventually will rust out your lines/parts. dot 5 is silicone based and won't do that. if you use 5, you can ONLY use 5.




produce water? they absorb moisture which can rust your entire system. the dot5 doesn't absorb moisture but i have read that since it doesn't absorb moisture that the moisture can collect at the wheel cyl and calipers. just bleed the system once a year and you should be fine.




the correct term is "Hygroscopic" which means that a substance readily absorbs moisture. Dot 4 (and the other polyethylene glycol based fluids) is hygroscopic and will absorb water from the atmosphere.....which is why you aren't supposed to use old fluid, particularly if it has had the lid off for some time. Moisture absorbed by polyethelene glycol brake fluid will rust all interior components of the brake system over time.

Dot 5 (not 5.1) is silicone based and will not absorb moisture. Since Dot 5 won't absorb the moisture, there is no danger of rust from water in the brake fluid, BUT any moisture in the system will tend to migrate to a dead end or high spot and rust in that area would then be free to form. Frequent use, bleeding or the use of stainless steel brake lines and components are methods of combating this corrosion.

There, clear as mud?

Dave





so basically what i said but not needing a Thesaurus.. lmao
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 10:48 PM

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so basically what i said but not needing a Thesaurus.. lmao




Sure, but mine sounds much more authoritative, does it not?


Dave
Posted By: cogen80

Re: Dot 3 vs Dot 5 Brake Fluid - 09/07/11 11:36 PM

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so basically what i said but not needing a Thesaurus.. lmao




Sure, but mine sounds much more authoritative, does it not?


Dave




yea it does..lol
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