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Is this stock?

Posted By: Vainglory

Is this stock? - 04/06/11 11:13 PM

Is this intake manifold and carb combination stock for a 1970 hemi? Where do you find air cleaners for this?

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Posted By: B5 Bee

Re: Is this stock? - 04/06/11 11:22 PM

Well, it has a some what stock appearance for a '70 but the carbs look like '66-'67.
Posted By: Jim_Lusk

Re: Is this stock? - 04/06/11 11:25 PM

Looks stock. 1970 should have an oval air cleaner. Check this site out:

http://www.nicksgarage.com/aircleaner.htm
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Is this stock? - 04/06/11 11:32 PM

For a 1970 the air cleaner should look like this one.

Posted By: Yancy Derringer

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 12:05 AM

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Well, it has a some what stock appearance for a '70 but the carbs look like '66-'67.




I don't know how you can tell from that picture. I just got "out of" my '70 shop manual, and no more than I can tell from that picture, they look like they could very well be stock.
Posted By: mopar4ya

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 12:20 AM

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Well, it has a some what stock appearance for a '70 but the carbs look like '66-'67.




I don't know how you can tell from that picture. I just got "out of" my '70 shop manual, and no more than I can tell from that picture, they look like they could very well be stock.




I agree from that pic they look like 66-67 carbs. If I see the pic correct, looks like the idle air adjustment valve is in the center of the carb. The valve covers are pre 70's as well.

This is a 67 engine.


Dan
Posted By: B5 Bee

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 12:22 AM

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Well, it has a some what stock appearance for a '70 but the carbs look like '66-'67.




I don't know how you can tell from that picture. I just got "out of" my '70 shop manual, and no more than I can tell from that picture, they look like they could very well be stock.




The front carb has the Air Bypass screw. It's the large brass hex-headed screw at the lower front of the carb, between the two idle mixture screws. It's used to set the idle speed. Although it can't be seen, there shouldn't be an idle speed screw on the side linkage.

I think the OP is only looking for stock appearing, not OEM, as the car has an aluminum radiator, aluminum MC, hyd clutch, and heater removed. And no, I'm not knocking the car, looks like a clean ride.

I don't know a source for the 2x4 oval air cleaners. There are repops of the earlier chrome domes.
Posted By: Vainglory

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 04:37 AM

Hey guys, thanks for your responses. I should have elaborated a bit more. The car is a 70 Charger, but it's not an original engine. It's a 66 block, with I believe 68 heads.

The problem I'm having is that nobody remakes the 1970 air cleaner except for aftermarket Edelbrock intake/carbs, and I can't drive the damn thing without one. Everything else is done, and I'm just cleaning up the final "punch list" before I get the car back on the road.

However, if the carbs were to, say, fit an earlier-than-70 chrome dome air cleaner, I could just throw that on to get it on the road (they repop those, right?) and worry about finding a 1970 style later. Right?

Are there other alternatives? At this point, I'm not worried about making it look stock today, I just want to get it on the road.

Here's another picture of the carbs.

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Posted By: Vainglory

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 04:39 AM

...and one of the car when it was delivered.

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Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 04:49 AM

Those do appear to be 66-67 vintage carbs (post the numbers stamped on the fronts of the passenger side front feet if you want the details). The fuel lines are the correct 70 style, the choke is a replacement non factory electric choke. The 70-71 style lids are different than the 66-69 carbs, they have a unique vent tube on the pass side rear amoung other smaller cosmetic details.

Any factory dual 4 inline Hemi air cleaner will fit those carbs, the chrome domes are reproduced and last I heard so are the 70 versions, however, NONE are cheap! Round numbers $700-$1,000 last I saw on ebay, I believe the same vendor who sells the larger dia. style sells the originals as well.

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Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 04:56 AM

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Those do appear to be 66-67 vintage carbs (post the numbers stamped on the fronts of the passenger side front feet if you want the details). The fuel lines are the correct 70 style, the choke is a replacement non factory electric choke. The 70-71 style lids are different than the 66-69 carbs, they have a unique vent tube on the pass side rear amoung other smaller cosmetic details.

Any factory dual 4 inline Hemi air cleaner will fit those carbs, the chrome domes are reproduced and last I heard so are the 70 versions, however, NONE are cheap! Round numbers $700-$1,000 last I saw on ebay, I believe the same vendor who sells the larger dia. style sells the originals as well.




What he said and Ben Snobar repops the 69-71 air cleaner, though it may be a 70-71 it will work for a 69.
Posted By: Vainglory

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 05:29 PM

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Those do appear to be 66-67 vintage carbs (post the numbers stamped on the fronts of the passenger side front feet if you want the details). The fuel lines are the correct 70 style, the choke is a replacement non factory electric choke. The 70-71 style lids are different than the 66-69 carbs, they have a unique vent tube on the pass side rear amoung other smaller cosmetic details.

Any factory dual 4 inline Hemi air cleaner will fit those carbs, the chrome domes are reproduced and last I heard so are the 70 versions, however, NONE are cheap! Round numbers $700-$1,000 last I saw on ebay, I believe the same vendor who sells the larger dia. style sells the originals as well.




What he said and Ben Snobar repops the 69-71 air cleaner, though it may be a 70-71 it will work for a 69.





Thanks for all your help, guys. Ben Snobar is the guy behind shakerhood.com right? I think I'll give him a call.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Is this stock? - 04/07/11 05:33 PM

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Thanks for all your help, guys. Ben Snobar is the guy behind shakerhood.com right? I think I'll give him a call.




Yes
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