Posted By: 65rbdodge
exhaust valve rotaters - 04/01/11 07:18 PM
what is their purpose? do i need them? they are on #302 heads on a near stock 318.
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They use a very short valve spring and any added lift would be very marginal before coil bind. Get rid of them and use regular retainers and regular length springs if upgrading to bigger cam..
They are to help prevent valve and valve seat burnouts by keeping the valve in constant rotation in the guide allowing a different seating position each time the valve closes.
Quote:Here in picture form. Not all were on truck engines many were on cars too. Did you notice how short the springs use with them are.
AFTER thinking about this post I had to go out to the barn and pull a rotator off a set of heads.....
DAMN that thing is trick ... there is some kind of "bearing" in there ....roller or ball.
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I went out and found a well-used) HP spring(with the dampner) .. it appears to be the same height. definately wider though.
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I am sure that the ones I have had off over the tears were shorter to compensate for the thick retainer.
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dropped exhaust valve. The heads were pulled and sent to a rebuilder for a un-biased opinion. Result was intake springs accidently installed on exhaust valves with rotators. The seat pressures were like doubled if not more as I remember.
Not sure on the physical heights between them.
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Something is not right there, doc. We ave always used standard retainers on the valve when changing springs. Here is a picture of a result of using rotators with a small 485 lift cam. As there had been new valve installed on the job the good ones were reused on nondamaged heads. Have used standard retainers and compatible springs on many since.
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a stock exhast spring with rotator is shorter than the stock intake spring
I had a machine shop mix one intake spring up on a valve job
couple days later it snaped the end off the valve,locks and tip of valve still in the rotator when I tore it back down
busted a piston,wiped the cyl walls out,suck piston into almost all other cyls
I told and showed them the 8 shorter springs and the bigger intake springs when I droped them off for the valve job
I will never use any more rotators when a rebuild or spring upgrade is at hand on mine
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Just go along with him, Mike. Life is easier that way. we know that they are short but ------------
Quote:Yeah I have heard and seen them again I said it has been awhile. They are relative and about the same as a stelite valve have larger stems. I also said it has been a while since I was around them and can pick and chose what I want to work on, if anything. I quit the dealerships in 82 so go figure. This wasn't talking HD truck or RV motors wither. So go muddy somebody elses threads or preferably start your own thread rather than horn and ruin on someone elses. I am outta this one.
M4L .... at choo !
Exh valve rotators ? ....SB ...BB ... whatever !! ....start my own topic ? ... oh THAT should be a hot-topic !!
Justa FYI ... the 413 exh valve has a HUGE stem. Ever hear of a sodium-filled valve ?
How many RV motors have you pulled-down? LOTS of issues on the exh-valve side?