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Erson rocker shafts, Who has broke one?

Posted By: Von

Erson rocker shafts, Who has broke one? - 02/03/11 02:31 AM

Looking to see who( or knows somebody) who has broke an Erson rocker shaft, specifically the shafts used for the needle bearing rockers.

Im asking because I was told today by a person who probably knows as much or more as anybody about rockers (you can probably guess who), that it is a common problem with the Erson shafts. If you dont know the Erson shafts are .700 diameter. About .175 less than a standard diameter shaft. The wall thickness at the fastener location is reduced by .090ish on the top and bottom side of the fastener hole. He guessed and was correct that the shaft I have broke at the fastener locations. He suggests doing away with the needle bearings, bushing them and using standard size shafts.

I know that other mfgs use shafts diameter smaller than the stock diameter.

Wondering how common the breaking problem is
Posted By: HemiRick

Re: Erson rocker shafts, Who has broke one? - 02/03/11 02:41 AM

It all depends on what valve springs you're running.
Run too powerful a spring and yes the cheaper rocker systems will fail.
Posted By: Von

Re: Erson rocker shafts, Who has broke one? - 02/03/11 04:17 AM

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It all depends on what valve springs you're running.
Run too powerful a spring and yes the cheaper rocker systems will fail.




I wouldnt call the erson stuff cheap...about on par with the high end stuff. Way better than Crane, Dove, 440China, Probe, Hughes,etc....The rockers themselves are up in the T&D range. My and somebody who actually knows rockers (RAS) also.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Erson rocker shafts, Who has broke one? - 02/03/11 06:26 AM

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It all depends on what valve springs you're running.
Run too powerful a spring and yes the cheaper rocker systems will fail.




I wouldnt call the erson stuff cheap...about on par with the high end stuff. Way better than Crane, Dove, 440China, Probe, Hughes,etc....The rockers themselves are up in the T&D range. My and somebody who actually knows rockers (RAS) also.




We, ran them on the enginemaster entry , they held up fine for about 80 dyno pulls ,6700ish RPM .

I assume that the RAS shafts are not the right diameter?

You could make your own shafts and get them hardened ?

If that person told you to ditch the needle bearings and bush to use stock shafts you might want to consider that .
Posted By: Sport440

Re: Erson rocker shafts, Who has broke one? - 02/04/11 12:28 AM

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You could make your own shafts and get them hardened ?

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Its funny you said that. When Erson first came out with thier new rocker rollers I ordered a set. I waited over a year, and still no rockers.

I ran into Erson at a Super Summit show and asked them whats up with my order.

They stated they were having trouble with hardening thier shafts. Said they were on thier Third batch attempt and still were having problems with warpage and cracking.

I couldnt wait any longer so I cancelled my order and bought some cranes. In hindsite I wish I would of went with Harland Sharps.

That was back around 2000 or so. In the Adds those Rockers were a thing of beauty, looked stout too. mike
Posted By: Triggerfish

Re: Erson rocker shafts, Who has broke one? - 02/04/11 02:23 AM

Tom at Erson switched out my Cranes on my 440 to Erson rollers w/ the needle bearings on the dyno at Mallory a few yrs ago & had no problems with them. That was about 6 yrs ago. 440 made 534 hp & 560 tq.

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Posted By: jb500

Re: Erson rocker shafts, Who has broke one? - 02/04/11 06:48 AM

What is the part number on the needle bearing Erson uses?
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