70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures

Posted By: YO7_A66

70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/12/10 04:30 PM

I need to replace the power steering hose on my car and I bought one from NAPA and it does not seem to be the correct one, or I should say that the one that I bought does not match the one that is on the car. Could someone post pictures of what each end should look like so I can determine which hose that I have is correct?
The hose that I am referring to is the one with fittings on both ends. I believe that I have the Saginaw type pump and both of my current hoses (NAPA new and existing) measure around 28" long. I have looked up the hose on YO and they show that they should be 35" long so I am confused which one I should have for the car.

Thanks

Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/12/10 06:44 PM

A '70 340 car should have a Federal power steering pump. ('69 model year used Saginaw)

Posted By: gtx6970

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/12/10 10:17 PM

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A '70 340 car should have a Federal power steering pump. ('69 model year used Saginaw)

Dan,
My 1970 challenger 340 also had a saginaw pump
the date code on the pulley was in line with the cars SBD

Posted By: YO7_A66

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/13/10 01:25 AM

I took a couple of pictures of what the existing pump/hose ends look like. Maybe this will help determine which pump I have and which hose I need.

#1

Thanks

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Posted By: YO7_A66

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/13/10 01:26 AM

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Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/13/10 02:05 AM

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#2

Did you buy that current hose at one time? Usually that style hose comes out of the steering box pointed forward. Wonder if someone bent it up.

The 71 340 or 383 sagninaw E-body hose should work with that.

BTW that pump has a later square resivour 74? up style. Check if you current pump pressure inlet is a 3/8" Male Inverted Flare. That's a replacement pump you have that might not have the 70 fitting size (sort of looks like the right one in you pic though).

Gates p/n 352840 Pressure Line Assembly; 5/16" Female SAE x 3/8" Male Inverted Flare x 34 1/4"
W/Saginaw P.S. Pump for 71 E-body with 340 and saginaw pump.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=78307

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Posted By: YO7_A66

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/13/10 03:59 AM

P/S Hose End Type : 5/16" Female S.A.E. x 3/8" Male Inv. Flare
Power Steering Hose Imperial Length : 34 1/4"

I found your description to match another one at NAPA that I can pickup.
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=NPS7610_0135925189&An=599001+101970+50020+2020006

That is a replacement pump and the hose was on the car when I bought it 9+ years ago.
I will trade in my current new hose for the hose with the above description.
Thank you

Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/13/10 04:41 AM

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P/S Hose End Type : 5/16" Female S.A.E. x 3/8" Male Inv. Flare
Power Steering Hose Imperial Length : 34 1/4"

I found your description to match another one at NAPA that I can pickup.
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=NPS7610_0135925189&An=599001+101970+50020+2020006

That is a replacement pump and the hose was on the car when I bought it 9+ years ago.
I will trade in my current new hose for the hose with the above description.
Thank you

I just went in the my files and I saved the box top that my hose I used on my 68 Barracuda with Saginaw p/s pump about 7-8 years ago. It is Napa p/n 7-1574

http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?R=NPS71574_0135925568

Now that I look at that picture I first posted, I like that 71574 p/s hose much better (NPS 71574). I know I'm using it on an A-body, But I have a NOS 71 Challenger p/s hose and it looks like the 71574. I think if you look for survivor 70/71 340 E-body with saginaw P/S pumps they will look like the 71574 hose.

The routing of you current hose into the P/S box looks a little wierd to me. Real tight between the box and the inner fender. Looks different than both new hoses were looking at online.

I've had problems with p/s pressure hose listings in the past. They don't seem to be right in the parts books. I don't trust them.

NPS 71574:

Posted By: YO7_A66

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/13/10 12:59 PM

So the NAPA 71574 worked fine for your 340/Saganaw even though the description shows it for a 383/440?
Does it matter if i need a 3/8 inverted flare versus a 3/8 o-ring type?
I agree, my current hose does not look like the correct application.
Does the 71574 go behind, or underneath the ps pump?

Thank you very much.

Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/13/10 05:05 PM

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So the NAPA 71574 worked fine for your 340/Saganaw even though the description shows it for a 383/440?
Does it matter if i need a 3/8 inverted flare versus a 3/8 o-ring type?

Yes, absolutely critical. You have inverted flare right?

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I agree, my current hose does not look like the correct application.
Does the 71574 go behind, or underneath the ps pump?

Thank you very much.

It goes behind and to the side fo the p/s pump.

Here's a pic of one in my Dart.

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Posted By: YO7_A66

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 12/13/10 05:20 PM

I am not sure if I have the flare or the o-ring, I have not had that hose off yet. I was waiting to remove it once I had a hose that looked correct first.
I will be picking up a NAPA 71574 tonight. It has the o-ring but I will try it and see.
Thanks for the picture.

Posted By: YO7_A66

Re: 70 Challenger 340 PS Hose Pictures - 01/10/11 01:29 AM

Auto,
I finally got around to testing the 1574 hose from NAPA. What I found is that the NAPA hose has a female fitting for the power steering box (right end of the below picture), and my power steering box has a female thread (ref the #1 picture at the top of this thread). So I would need a male/male fitting to make this hose connect. Does this sound right?
The fitting at the power steering pump end looks fine but the bend is wrong. I could rebend the metal tube to make it work though. If I can find a fitting to adapt this hose, I will bend it to fit. I wonder if I have a replacement power steering box that is messing this up along with the replacement pump combo too.

Update: I just checked a 74 Challenger 360 ps hose and it does have the 5/16 male o-ring fitting for the ps box. I must have a 74 box then. I could not find the correct adapter so I have ordered the NAPA #7-6115 hose that has the correct ends but the bend in the tube will need to be modified.

Thanks

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