Tranny problem anybody have any ideas Update -1

with metal debris in it, I would take that thing all the way down to the bare case and start over . cleaning everything including the valvebody

AND have the convertor opened up and ck'd

I plan to just buy a new cooler and flush out the lines. The converter is on it's way back to the manufacturer ( ACC ) to be rebuilt or replaced. I know the 727 is an easy trans to build I have built 4 of them. But with the motor I have in this car I wanted a pro to build it so everything was perfect kind of funny huh. I will call the TC company and see if he still wants to warranty it after I tell him what we found in the trans.

Just so you know , your trans guy is screwing you.

The pressure plate is the thick piece that holds the clutches in the drum. One of the guys said it was heat that cracked it and the guy that built the trans said it didn't look like it got hot at all. ACC the torque converter company said it was the loose valve body that caused the problem. He said he still might warranty it but my guess is when he gets it he'll say I need to buy a new one.

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A few years ago I removed my Turbo Action 10 " Converter from my 904 and installed a Boss Hog converter. ( I wanted a little less stall ) It was not worth a Damn and came apart in less than 1000 miles, and left shrapnel all through the trans. Took alot of cleaning, and had metal embedded in clutches ,valve body, governor. When I rebuilt it, I put the Turbo Action converter back in, and threw the Boss Hog out with the trash !

The only updates that I have so far are I'm still waiting for my tranny. It's been almost a month now the guy said that the tranny is done but he doesn't have the converter yet. The converter is supposed to be here Wednesday of next week.

I think its time to find a new tranny guy and converter company (Ive been running a turbo action tc for ten years on the street and track 3800 stahl no problems ever), I love how each guy blames the other.

you won't know till he opens the trans..but that 2nd time with the same guy is not looking that good...good luck and let us know

I am supposed to be getting my tranny back tomorrow. I blew all of the old tranny fluid out of the cooling lines and cooler with compressed air. Then I flushed the tranny cooling lines and cooler out using an old electric fuel pump. First I ran diesel fuel through it for about 30 minutes then blew that out with compressed air. Then I ran new tranny fluid through it for about 30 minutes. Will the traces of diesel fuel that might still be in the system cause any problems ?

Ok I got my tranny back yesterday and put the torque converter in it dropped in the first shaft then the second when it engaged the pump the torque converter would not turn it was stuck. I put 2 hands on it and pulled pretty hard with no luck it was stuck. I called the guy that built it and he came and got it. He said that sometimes the pump gets packed too full of grease and will hydraulic. When the converter went in it never moved like the pump was jammed metal to metal. What could cause the pump to jam ?? I'm going to call around this morning and try to find somebody I can trust to open this tranny up to see if it's right before I put it in the car. This guy has been in business for 7 years that I know of and they always seem to be busy when I go to the shop. I don't know how they can stay in business making mistakes like this.

If somebody packs it so full of grease that it hydraulics what's going to happen when the engine turns it over?

It just didn't feel like a hydraulic it felt more like metal to metal. The converter wouldn't budge in either direction it was locked solid.

Let me tell you my similar experience i went through recently that might shed some light on your situation.

i race my dart regularly, it's now a 408 stroker, but at the time only had a 318 that would push the car to low 14's. the tranny was rebuilt and i purchased a 3000 stall B&M converter when it went together..(also i'll point out that a 3500 converter for the street is completely fine...i drove a 4500 to the track every weekend for years without a problem, flash speed and their advertised stall speed are very diff things) any ways, on a pass down the track (on motor) i lost 3rd gear completely, shifted into first, second, every gear but drive. i checked my linkage a thousand times, adjusted it slightly and it appeared to fix the problem...for a week..then it did the same thing...i called my trans guy and gave him h@ll about my 1000 mile tranny blowup i just had.. like your guy he said he'll go through it for free, but also said that my pan full of shavings was most likely a blown converter. i thought he was an idiot until i went to pull the converter off of the pump. the converter had internally blown up and basically ate the front of the pump shaft off..these shavings then clogged the valve body, which restricted pressure for the shift. long story short, i apologized, gave him his deserving $250 for the rebuild and intense cleaning my tranny needed...and then proceeded to call B&M and give them hell instead. they basically said it's out of warranty, i'm on my own, and i basicaly said i'm done with their crap and my next one will be a TCI with an anti baloon plate.
long story short, neither the trans builder or the converter company is gonna own up to it. i know nothing about boss hogg and i work for what we'll call...(americas #1 performance warehouse)..they might be good, no idea...my mistake was running nitrous on a garbage $300 converter, i felt no shudder, shake or anything, and had no idea the converter went until the valve body clogged, also probably only made 20 nitrous passes on the motor, and it had beena bout 5 months since the last one...so learn from that as well..and back to your problem, your tranny builder seems very unprofessional..loose bolts? come on..but that would just cause pressure leaks and stop you from shifting..the other parts found in the pan show his parts failed, either as a result of the converter going, or on thier own....i'd be leaning to his fault since now he also gave you a seized pump, and i'd be the first person to blame a budget converter, but in this case i think it's on him, and the converter and trans both need gone through. if there's shavings in the pan, there's shavings everywhere else. if the converter checks out ok then again better business b this guy...hope my long winded story and opinion helps you.

The guy that built the tranny just dropped it off. He said that he took the pump out checked everything out and put a new pump in.He said the pump that was in it was just fine it was just stuck. He said he put the new pump in so he could be sure I wouldn't have any problems. If it stops raining tomorrow (I'm working outside because I have my Roadrunner in the garage in bare metal) I will put the tranny in and see how it works and let you guy know. Johny Mac I never ran nitrous in this motor and I only raced it a couple time on the streets ( yea I know ). He cleaned and went completely through the tranny and he replaced my 3500 rpm stall converter with a new one. The new converter has the anti ballooning plate also. If this tranny works for 5,000 or 10,000 miles I'll be happy. I don't think he will do another tranny for me but I will be happy that this didn't end up in court.

yeah i wasn't assuming you had nitrous, just saying when a converter goes..it takes the tranny with it..sometimes you get in a bad situation with a smaller or private shop (i have my own horror/almost court appearance story involving a paint job so i hear ya)..but good luck, glad he fixed it for you. hope it hold together this time!

I think in this case the tranny went and took the converter with it. Don't get Me started on People getting screwed over on paint work. I was on the sh@t end of that stick with an AAR Cuda clone I built and painted a guy and never got paid for it. But I think that would something for a different forum.

Do what I did 25 years ago. Get a good book. Read it completely. Buy a few tools. Get a spare trans a take your time assembling it. Find a trans whole sale house for the parts, there cheap. If you get stuck ask questions. I got very tired of paying money for failed rebuilds. It is very simple to assemble a 727 that will last for year with 600 H.P.
Good luck Doug