Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body

Posted By: LandShark

Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body - 05/02/10 11:16 PM

Over the weekend, I installed a 1997 magnum truck engine (360). The truck engine came with the factory starter. The mounting section looked so similar to the 71 unit except 1/3 the weight and mass that I was optimistic that it would install. An hour later, hope was lost and the factory 71 unit bolted right up. I am having clearance issues with the 71 unit and headers. Can anyone tell me if this unit should work? Attempts at bolting it up seem to say no, but I would like confirmation. Also, if it doesn't work, is there a budget starter out there that is small and can bolt onto this combo? I am running a 1971 904 tranny with balancing weights welding onto the converter behind a 1997 Ram 1500 magnum motor... Many Thanks!

Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body - 05/02/10 11:51 PM

What is hitting or not lineing up?

I have a 92 full size van starter on the wifes 72 charger

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body - 05/03/10 12:42 AM

some of the mini starters have a plastic wire adaptor/extention piece that you remove and hook the wire to the other 2 studs from the starter

this helps clearance problems at the block/starter

the newer starters are a fairly common upgrade now days

i have it on a sb 318 and one on the 440 engine,I also use the mini alt on the 440 with stock alt brackets from the non a/c 440 engine

the mini starter usally has a lot of header room and can be R&R with out to much hassles of R&R the header

what exactly did not work for you on the mini starter??

that extention piece is the only thing I have ever seen that needed removed...then its a bolt on deal

some of the later ones have a diff hook up on the small wire but a plug from a JY truck can be spliced..have that on the 318 truck

Posted By: LandShark

Re: Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body - 05/04/10 06:07 AM

Thanks for all the info... The 3am time frame was the main cause of failure...

Posted By: Kern Dog

Re: Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body - 05/04/10 07:15 AM

I went to the Fall Fling in Van Nuys CA last year and bought a pair of Doug Thorley headers at the swap meet for $25. SCORE ! My Duster 340 had manifolds, so this seemed ideal. The right side went in easily and look very similar to TTI in the routing of the tubes. The left side was a real pisser. I had it in and out of the car 15 times trying to get proper clearance. The mini starter solenoid was on the very bottom of the starter and required crushing of the tops of two tubes for clearance. I had to smash them almost in half . NOT GOOD. I ordered a new starter from Mancini, but despite what the salesman said, the solenoid was in the EXACT SAME SPOT as the mini starter. The stock starter would fit, but the electrical leads would have been too close to 3 of the tubes, so I cut the left side out with a sawzall and ordered TTI pipes. I have since read about some starter that allows the starter body to be clocked for added clearance. I wish I had checked Moparts before I started denting the Doug pipes.

Posted By: 71383beep

Re: Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body - 05/04/10 11:41 AM

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What is hitting or not lineing up?

I have a 92 full size van starter on the wifes 72 charger

Yeah I did the same thing based on advice I got from a local mopar guru. Just use a regular starter from a dakota or even a minivan and it should bolt up after removing the wiring adaptor on the solenoid. Been running one for many years now without an issue. 383 w/ TTI 1 7/8" headers.

Posted By: RobbMc

Re: Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body - 05/04/10 11:39 PM

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I went to the Fall Fling in Van Nuys CA last year and bought a pair of Doug Thorley headers at the swap meet for $25. SCORE ! My Duster 340 had manifolds, so this seemed ideal. The right side went in easily and look very similar to TTI in the routing of the tubes. The left side was a real pisser. I had it in and out of the car 15 times trying to get proper clearance. The mini starter solenoid was on the very bottom of the starter and required crushing of the tops of two tubes for clearance. I had to smash them almost in half . NOT GOOD. I ordered a new starter from Mancini, but despite what the salesman said, the solenoid was in the EXACT SAME SPOT as the mini starter. The stock starter would fit, but the electrical leads would have been too close to 3 of the tubes, so I cut the left side out with a sawzall and ordered TTI pipes. I have since read about some starter that allows the starter body to be clocked for added clearance. I wish I had checked Moparts before I started denting the Doug pipes.

Is this the starter? It will clear without modifying the headers and with more clearance than the old stock starter:

http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products/mopar_starter.html
http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products/starter_home.html#comparison

Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Late model starter in 1971 Plymouth B-body - 05/05/10 01:48 AM

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5928799&Main=5927643