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Rust and Primer Question.

Posted By: Snoopy

Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 01:38 AM

I need to try to slow down some rust problems. I know you guys on the East coast won't consider this a serious problem, seeing that I can't read a paper through the rusty spot.
How do I treat the affected area after I remove the rust? I figured that I would prime it, but it will just start to rust again.
What is the best way to handle the problem until I can get the car ready for paint in the next year?

Thanks

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Posted By: 70Cuda383

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 01:40 AM

That's bad rust. push on it. I bet your finger goes straight through it.

that's at the point I'm afraid, that you're gonna have to cut it out and patch in new metal. a minimum repair would be to cut the area out to good clean metal, and prime the edges so that the rust doesn't spread.

it's amazing how fast scale rust like that will spread, but a clean edge will stay solid for a long time.
Posted By: 70Duster440

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 01:40 AM

Cancer. Cut it out and patch.
Posted By: Neil

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 01:42 AM

A little rust-mort should slow it down. Don't let it get on the surrounding paint though....
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 01:50 AM

I pushed on it and it seems pretty solid, but you never know until you start trying to get to good metal. I will plan on replacing that section, but I need to stop the rust now and not leave a gaping hole.
What can I do to seal the primer so it won't rust through? Is there a one step method the prime and seal the spot until I can do it right?
Posted By: ahy

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 01:52 AM

Quote:

Cancer. Cut it out and patch.




Agree. I'd get taken care of now, matching up the paint as well as possible. That way its ready for the overall re-paint next year. With that kind of rust, the quick fixes last 3 months or until the first rain... whichever comes first.
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 01:54 AM

That is going to be a hole no matter what.

Scrape the bubbled part off & soak it in Ospho.
Posted By: Lefty

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 03:17 AM

Chip, scrape and wire brush away all the loose rust. Clean with brake clean or final prep. Brush on Miracle paint with a new/clean chip brush. Top coat with spray bomb to cover Miracle paint. It'll last many years and not rust anymore than it is now.

Get the black and use the leftover on frame and chassis stuff. Follow the directions about storing the leftover paint (don't remove the lid).

http://www.hirschauto.com/prodinfo.asp?number=MIR-QUART
Posted By: Ronnman

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 03:22 AM

Snoopy - Eastwood Rust Encapsulator, clean best as possible, apply, let dry, prime and then topcoat with color matched spraybomb.
Ron
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 05:23 AM

Take your grinder to it and carefully grind it until the rust is gone. Then mask the area and spray it with primer and then some blue paint that sort of matches. It will be noticeable but better than a rust mound. If you try to leave it and put other crap over top you will only make it worse.
Posted By: Snoopy

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 07:03 AM

Thanks for all the input, I will try to get it to bare metal, hopefully without hitting air, and then try out a few of the above ideas.

Will DP90 protect the metal from rust without a topcoat? Assuming I can remove all the rust from the rusted surface. This will just be a short term fix to stop the spread.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 01:12 PM

x2 on the ospho

doing my truck roof this week,thats stuff is killer and it will get the rust out

sand/grind/prime

I am using the "all metal" to patch up the pin holes and trim holesthat are in the cab/fenders/doors

the surface rust on my roof was bad...it was rusted,sanded,primed,painted with out getting the rust out the first time before I got it

I am on the 3rd coat of ospho and it is almost rust free..this last time should do it

right down to the shiny metal and helps eat some of the stubborn primer and paint off

good luck

Posted By: dvw

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/02/10 02:57 PM

Two different ways to approach this. #1 wire brush,grind,ect. to remove loose rust. Then apply a rust coating such as Por 15,fill,paint. #2 sandblast cut out bad metal weld in a patch. If your going to paint the whole car later it really doesn't matter which you do now. In my experience you'll always find hidden spots when you strip it anyway. Hope it doesn't look like this when you blast it.
Doug

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Posted By: Snoopy

Re: Rust and Primer Question. - 03/03/10 12:23 AM

Concerning the Ospho, how do you apply it and how long do you leave it on?
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