Posted By: Fastfrankie
Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/07/09 04:20 PM
Quick question - is it really necessary to buy that valve core screwdriver/driver to properly torque the valve core in the stem?
I don't mind spending $25 in the screwdriver tool from Lisle. Just curious if it is really necessary, as long as you don't overtorque/strip the stem.
Any tips or advice when changing out tires with rims that have TPS valve stems? I don't see alot of these come into my shop.
Posted By: therocks
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/07/09 05:37 PM
I did some at work before.Just used the regular VS remover.Just snug them.The Advanced store had a new S10 truck that the rubber seal to the rim was leaking.I fiked that with a rubber from a thread in valve stem.The GM dealer couldnt get one and they only sold the whole unit.Its still working and that was almost a year ago.Rocky
Posted By: RapidRobert
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/07/09 07:45 PM
you might see if you can locate one of those metal chrome valve stem caps that has the slotted nub on top for that very purpose. Even if you bought a new set of 4 cheapies in a blister pack it'd sure be cheaper than $25.
Posted By: 68Cbarge
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/07/09 10:26 PM
You may not have had them much,but they are getting more and more common.
FWIW,buy the kit that has the torque wrench,valve stem core tool and the service kits.
Bridgeport/Schrader has a complete kit our shop uses.
It is recommended to replace the O-ring,nut,and crush sleeve on most TPMS sensors when servicing tires.
The GM valve stems are available from them and as well from the dealer.
I attended the training seminars and the proper way to dismount a tire wiht a TPMS sensor is remove the valve core,then nut and push the sensor inside the tire and break the tire down.
Of course the guys in the shop skip that and break the bead 180 degrees away from the sensor.
The problem our shop exprienced is Northern climates with salt on the roads can sieze up the valve cores.We have snapped many a sensor that is corroded from winter driving.
It is important to have correct valve stem caps on the sensors.
Fancy chrome caps,or regular plastic ones do not keep moisture out.
Make sure you "test" the valve core before going further.If it is not going to come out,tell the customer heads up that a new sensor may be required.Make sure you get price and availability before proceeding so you wont have a sitting duck on your hands.
Hope this helps.
Posted By: Fastfrankie
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/07/09 10:41 PM
Can you recommend any kit with those tools etc?
I was looking at a Lisle driver for $25.00 shipped. No core tool though.
Posted By: 68Cbarge
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/07/09 11:31 PM
Check out this page:
http://www.schrader-bridgeport.com/index...&Itemid=111Contact your jobber and see if they deal with Schrader.
We use their kits and tools in our shop.
As noted on the site,never use the regular brass valve cores with the TPMS sensors--always use the nickle plated cores.
Posted By: therocks
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/08/09 01:02 PM
Like I said I did a bunch at work.I was just careful not to get zealous reinstalling the stem.Its like rotating tires on them.You have to reset them on the car to shut the light off.We rotated then turn on ign let some air out reair and wait for the horn to beep to recoginise the sensor.Just more work and then people wonder why working on the new stuff costs more.We had one girl with a Pontiac that kept bending rims.She wnet thru 5 new ones and we straightened 4 more.She kept hitting pretty much the same pot hole.Never guess what color hair she had.Rocky
Posted By: therocks
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/08/09 01:40 PM
Thats what you have to do on GMs for sure.Takes about 20 minutes total.Have to start charging more than 12 bucks to rotate tires.Rocky
Posted By: fourgearsavoy
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/08/09 09:59 PM
Frankie you need to add a "W" to your explanation,TPS means T-hrottle P-osition S-ensor and TPWS means T-ire P-ressure W-arning S-ensor. Now with terminology out of the way you can get a kit from your local Toyota dealer that has a nut,washer,and seal to repair the "TPWS".
Gus
Posted By: Snoopy
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/09/09 12:48 AM
How do the sensors communicate with the car?
Posted By: Snoopy
Re: Tire Shop Guys - TPS question/valve stems - 11/09/09 04:34 AM
Thanks for the answer. I found this on the link listed above.
TPMS sensors measure tire pressure and transmit this information via radio frequencies to the vehicle’s electronic control unit (ECU). Some Schrader TPMS sensors also measure tire temperature.