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Adding Frame Connectors

Posted By: whitemtnelf

Adding Frame Connectors - 07/31/09 01:36 PM

Hi,

I have my car on a rotisserie and want to add frame connectors. The car is connected at the bumper mounts. If I flip the car over to weld them will the body have the correct loading?

Thanks
Posted By: Bill MeLater

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 07/31/09 02:16 PM

It'll be easy, but you won't be happy
Posted By: Noblewk

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 07/31/09 02:21 PM

No it will not. If your making your own with 2X3 dom you can fit them by opening the rear rails, and cutting the floor to slide the tubes in place but do not weld them in until the car is loaded (I.E. Drive train in,) and resting on the suspension.
Posted By: whitemtnelf

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 07/31/09 02:42 PM

I'd like to get them welded in before priming and coating (truck bed liner) the underside. I was hoping to find a way to properly load the car without taking it off the rotisserie. But it looks like I'll have to take it off and install the engine and rear end. I've gotten vertical welding down, but I'm not looking forward to over head welding
Posted By: RalleyA12

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 07/31/09 04:26 PM

Talk to XV Motorsports or US Car Tool and see what they say. US Car Tool shows them being installed on a car that is on a rotisserie.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 07/31/09 04:28 PM

Overhead welding is no big deal. Back off the heat(wire feed)and speed up your feed (your actual speed - not the wire feed). This keeps the molten metal from forming a bead and falling in your eye!! If you aren't already using it and have the option, use straight CO2 - not a mix. Some will claim they can do overhead with a mix but there are magicians on every subject you can name on here. The straight CO2 is WAY better for overhead welding. I normally use a mix but if it were me I would rent a small bottle JUST for this job - that's how strongly I feel about it.
Posted By: whitemtnelf

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 08/02/09 01:41 AM

I'll send some emails to the vendors and update the post with the responses. Thanks for all of your feedback.
Posted By: RBDART1

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 08/02/09 10:58 AM

You could build and fit them,bolt them in loosely till the car is loaded, then weld them....
Posted By: Garranimal

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 08/02/09 03:18 PM

Not to hi-jack this thread but i was about to post a similar question. I am about to install frame connectors but i have the entire front suspension and K-frame out of the car. the car is currently supported on the frame rails front and rear, the doors and trunk are shutting perfectly......would it be a mistake to put the connectors in at this point?
Posted By: Zapp

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 08/13/09 04:45 PM

Did you get advice back from the Manufacturer, I have a set of connectors and my car too is on Rotiserrie, I know US Car tool's Web site has photos of cars being fitted with Connectors while on a Rotisserie but some here advise against it. I am yet to hear real experiences of things going wrong fitting them in this way but some seem to suggest it will not work out
Posted By: Neil

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 08/13/09 05:24 PM

I spoke to John at US Car Tool about putting mine on while the car was on the rotisserie and he said it's fine.

If you have a super rusty car or a well abused ex-race car with a lot of body flex then it might not be a good idea. My dart was a clean low mileage car that seemed very tight so I went ahead and had mine welded on with the car placed in the vertical position on the rotisserie.
Posted By: MACDiesel

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 08/13/09 07:37 PM

Unless you just got that body from Dynacorn, it's probably pretty good at yoga... If you don't want to weld over your head just talk nice to an exhaust shop and have them do it.
Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Adding Frame Connectors - 08/13/09 10:57 PM

Quote:

I spoke to John at US Car Tool about putting mine on while the car was on the rotisserie and he said it's fine.

If you have a super rusty car or a well abused ex-race car with a lot of body flex then it might not be a good idea. My dart was a clean low mileage car that seemed very tight so I went ahead and had mine welded on with the car placed in the vertical position on the rotisserie.








I've have installed them on a rotissiere when the car is a bare shell on it's side and the car came out fine. Everything fit. Get way better welds that way too.
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