Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/25/09 08:39 PM

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The cable kit from Bouchillion Performance makes that Lokar look like the toy it is--PLEASE everyone look at the Bouchillion piece--it is a tranny saver and problem solver--good piece period!

The lokar kit bites from all the posts I have seen on this very site , the ratio the lever moves is not the same as the factory movement , one needs to trial and error by drilling holes to get it correct .

The bouchillon is plug and play , again from posts on it made on this site .

you've been WARNED

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Posted By: 440abody

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 12:12 AM

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The cable kit from Bouchillion Performance makes that Lokar look like the toy it is--PLEASE everyone look at the Bouchillion piece--it is a tranny saver and problem solver--good piece period!

AMEN TO THAT BROTHER! Take your hard earned money, and return the Lokar to Summit and call Bouchillion and get a qualtiy piece. I have had both, and I too followed the instructions for the lokar to the letter, and never got the thing to work right(believe me I tried to make it work). The Bouchillion works great and they are good folks to deal with.

Posted By: Jeff_383

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 01:17 AM

I have to agree with the above. I had the Lokar for 6 years, tinkering constantly. Finally bit the bullet, admitted defeat, and spent the money on the Bouchillon. Took a little time to adjust just right, but way better. Wish I had bought it first.

Posted By: 440mag

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 04:07 AM

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I have to agree with the above. I had the Lokar for 6 years, tinkering constantly. Finally bit the bullet, admitted defeat, and spent the money on the Bouchillon. Took a little time to adjust just right, but way better. Wish I had bought it first.

My lokar cable and bracket worked great. It took about 3 or 4 adjustments and the car shifts better than ever.

Posted By: chargermop

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 04:13 AM

To get the lokar to work you first have to take it and throw it as far as you can

, then get on the phone and get a Bouchillion Performance cable set up... my

Posted By: Junky

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 02:53 PM

I don't have any problems with mine. Shifts just fine. A clean and easy install.

Posted By: cogen80

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 03:04 PM

i have run the lokar cable kit on many cars and have never had a problem with it. great piece if you ask me.

Posted By: RacerGofKGB

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 03:46 PM

I have one hanging on the wall in my garage. I plan to put it on my car when i get it finished. Ill let you know how it goes in about 5 years.

Posted By: sharpie

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 03:49 PM

I run a Lokar cable kickdown. I don't have it adjusted to where I want yet, but it's not hard to adjust for me

just takes two people.

Posted By: dm69charger

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 04:12 PM

I have one on mine and do not have any problems with it. It works great!!!

Posted By: stumpy

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 04:28 PM

I'm using a lokar on my truck with no problems. Been on there three years and two different transmissions 727 & 518.

Posted By: newbee69

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 04:46 PM

Personally, I run the bouchillion cuz of easier install and I am lazy.

But, I dont see why everyone is bad mouthing the Lokar. I know a few people who have it and absolutely no problems.

There is some trial and error invloved in the adjustment so you will probly have to play with it a little bit. Big deal.

The only thing my buddy was barking about when installing his is that the bracket is a little flimsy. But once he got it right, never had a problem since. Good Luck.

Posted By: CHRGR69

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 06:00 PM

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I'm using a lokar on my truck with no problems. Been on there three years and two different transmissions 727 & 518.

Seems like I should be OK from the responses. Besides, when dealing with a 38 year old car, you become used to dealing with issues. No biggie! Thanks guys.

Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/26/09 08:37 PM

It's worth noting that many of those who claim to have no problems with the Lokar actually do have problems, they just don't know it.

Posted By: dusturbd340W5

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/27/09 12:06 AM

dont know why everyone hates the Lokar set up I have used many of these on everything from mopars to ford AOD's and never had 1 problem out of any of them

Posted By: cogen80

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/27/09 12:28 AM

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It's worth noting that many of those who claim to have no problems with the Lokar actually do have problems, they just don't know it.

its also worth noting that many of those who complain about having problems with a lokar set up actually didn't install it properly.

Posted By: Junky

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/27/09 12:51 AM

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It's worth noting that many of those who claim to have no problems with the Lokar actually do have problems, they just don't know it.

its also worth noting that many of those who complain about having problems with a lokar set up actually didn't install it properly.

Is this a secret of something? You two care to explain so we can know why it is that we must uninstall the Lokar setup?

Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/27/09 01:11 AM

works fine for me!

Posted By: cogen80

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/27/09 01:52 AM

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works fine for me!

are you sure you don't really have a problem that you don't know about?

Posted By: stumpy

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/27/09 02:37 AM

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It's worth noting that many of those who claim to have no problems with the Lokar actually do have problems, they just don't know it.

After driving, racing and building Mopars for 40 years I think I would know if I had a problem. I'll gaurentee you I have none. There is nothing wrong with a lokar setup that is installed correctly. I'm sure the others that are satisfied with their Lokars are just as sure in the statement of no problems. Good greif John folks would think you part ownership in Bouchillon the way you talk.

Posted By: 440mag

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 06/27/09 04:28 AM

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works fine for me!

are you sure you don't really have a problem that you don't know about?

That lokar cable made your engine swell up!

Posted By: KAHUDA

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/12/09 11:22 PM

OK all you Lokar guys, I just received mine and I'm in the middle of installing it. I could really use some advice, tips, step-by-step detailed instructions on how to get it adjusted so it works properly. In case it matters, it's on a '70 Cuda, 440-6, 727.

THANKS!!

Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/13/09 08:45 PM

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There is nothing wrong with a lokar setup that is installed correctly.

As I have stated on numerous occasions, if the installer is totally familiar with the TP theory of operation the Lokar will work satisfactory. The key word is "if".

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I'm sure the others that are satisfied with their Lokars are just as sure in the statement of no problems.

Being "satisfied" and being "correct" aren't necessarily the same thing.

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Good greif (sic) John folks would think you part ownership in Bouchillon the way you talk.

I don't make a dime off of their sales, I simply know a well-engineered product from a generic product packaged to (supposedly) work on a dedicated installation.

Let's look at the factory linkage, it's engineered to move the transmission lever in proportion to the carb opening, from idle to WOT.

Now let's look at a typical Lokar installation....the front of the cable is attached to the hole in the carb lever that is positioned below the throttle shaft, from idle to WOT the travel of this hole is around 1 1/4", then the other end of the cable is attached to the transmission lever whose travel can be anywhere from 2" to 2 3/4" depending on the lever installed (and there is a wide variety of these).

If the generic Lokar instructions are followed and the cable adjusted so that the trans lever is full back at carb WOT you can see (simple math) that the first 3/4" to 1 1/2" of the lever travel is already used up at idle and there's no spring to pull the lever forward.

Not a problem? OK, if you say so. It's not unusual to see these Lokar installations have light throttle 1-2 shifts at 25+ mph and 2-3 at 40+ mph or even higher and, possibly, no 2-3 upshift at all. If that's OK with you then, "no problem". If the cable is adjusted for correct light throttle shift points there is insufficient TP at WOT and no forced downshifts. Potential damage.

So, as I've repeatedly ranted, the Lokar works OK if the installer knows to match the total travel of the cable attach points and installs a spring.

The Bouchillon kit contains the trans lever so there's no mismatch in travel and it uses a more robust, easily located cable.

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/13/09 09:16 PM

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There is nothing wrong with a lokar setup that is installed correctly.

As I have stated on numerous occasions, if the installer is totally familiar with the TP theory of operation the Lokar will work satisfactory. The key word is "if".

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I'm sure the others that are satisfied with their Lokars are just as sure in the statement of no problems.

Being "satisfied" and being "correct" aren't necessarily the same thing.

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Good greif (sic) John folks would think you part ownership in Bouchillon the way you talk.

I don't make a dime off of their sales, I simply know a well-engineered product from a generic product packaged to (supposedly) work on a dedicated installation.

Let's look at the factory linkage, it's engineered to move the transmission lever in proportion to the carb opening, from idle to WOT.

Now let's look at a typical Lokar installation....the front of the cable is attached to the hole in the carb lever that is positioned below the throttle shaft, from idle to WOT the travel of this hole is around 1 1/4", then the other end of the cable is attached to the transmission lever whose travel can be anywhere from 2" to 2 3/4" depending on the lever installed (and there is a wide variety of these).

If the generic Lokar instructions are followed and the cable adjusted so that the trans lever is full back at carb WOT you can see (simple math) that the first 3/4" to 1 1/2" of the lever travel is already used up at idle and there's no spring to pull the lever forward.

Not a problem? OK, if you say so. It's not unusual to see these Lokar installations have light throttle 1-2 shifts at 25+ mph and 2-3 at 40+ mph or even higher and, possibly, no 2-3 upshift at all. If that's OK with you then, "no problem". If the cable is adjusted for correct light throttle shift points there is insufficient TP at WOT and no forced downshifts. Potential damage.

So, as I've repeatedly ranted, the Lokar works OK if the installer knows to match the total travel of the cable attach points and installs a spring.

The Bouchillon kit contains the trans lever so there's no mismatch in travel and it uses a more robust, easily located cable.

I struggled with mismatched factory peices on my 440 6 pak and could not get it to fit with my headers. This was in 05. I broke down and bought a Locar cable setup. Just so I could drive the car. This was before I knew about Bouchlins cable setup. Now I see someone selling the whole factory 6 pak setup which I would like to use, but I'm not sure about my 3 1/2" headers. This what I did to get the stroke close and the tranny shifts great. Maybe this might help someone. It ain't pretty but works, I'm sure you can tell what I used.

Posted By: JF_Moparts

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/13/09 10:11 PM

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The cable kit from Bouchillion Performance makes that Lokar look like the toy it is--PLEASE everyone look at the Bouchillion piece--it is a tranny saver and problem solver--good piece period!

I haven't used the Lokar so I can't comment, but the Bouchillon piece is very nice. I run that myself.

Jim

Posted By: stumpy

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/13/09 10:26 PM

Face it John you are not going to convince us all that Lokar is a useless setup. There are those of us that are able to set it up right and have had no problems using it. Yes Bouchillion is easier to install but it's not the only answer.So quit the ranting and relax a bit. Most stuff on our hotrods isn't a plug and play but that doesn't mean we can't make it work correctly.It just takes a little more work.If they are so bad how come there are so many out there in use and they are still selling so well. It's sad you are so hung up on this that you can't see the forrest for the trees.

Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/13/09 11:35 PM

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Face it John you are not going to convince us all that Lokar is a useless setup.

Never, ever made any such assertion.

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There are those of us that are able to set it up right and have had no problems using it.

Bully for you, my original comment that brought a response from you was that some who claim to have no problems actually do, they just don't know any better, my previous reply shows examples. And the number of threads on this forum regarding the installation/adjustment of the Lokar setup (do a search) shows that not everybody is as capable as you are.

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So quit the ranting and relax a bit.

No. I've seen the results of incorrect "kickdown" setups.

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Most stuff on our hotrods isn't a plug and play but that doesn't mean we can't make it work correctly.It just takes a little more work.If they are so bad how come there are so many out there in use and they are still selling so well. It's sad you are so hung up on this that you can't see the forrest (sic) for the trees.

I will iterate, the number of posts on this forum devoted to problems with setup and adjustment of the Lokar shows you're wrong and that some people are satisfied with less than correct.

Posted By: stumpy

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 12:10 AM

Anything you say John. The rest of us are just too stupid to know when we have something that doesn't work as we drive with it every day for years without any failures. Seems to me if it works right it's as correct as it needs to be. After all everything on our old cars is perefectly correct isn't it.

Posted By: 73swinger

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 01:21 AM

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So, as I've repeatedly ranted, the Lokar works OK if the installer knows to match the total travel of the cable attach points and installs a spring.

The Bouchillon kit contains the trans lever so there's no mismatch in travel and it uses a more robust, easily located cable.

I think this is the main thing Lokar buyers should be aware of. My first observation of the Lokar kit was the horrible directions. I installed mine as per directions on a freshly rebuilt 727 & thought it was right, 2 years & the tranny was toast. Then I learned more about throttle position importance, had the trans. rebuilt again, and again used the Lokar cable, WITH MODIFIED MOUNT POSITION ON TRANS. KICK DOWN LEVER. Its working fine so far, but I keep a close eye on adjustment. I bought it, I'm using it, but I would not buy another one. Bouchillion or a manual valve body next time.

Posted By: teflon

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 01:28 AM

Manual valve body takes care of that problem!!

BTW I agree with John (as a trans guy) in regards to throttle opening vs. proper trans throttle pressure.

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 01:53 AM

with the bouchillon kit it has the adapter/carb lever and the lever at the tranny and are a matched ratio

and it can use a stock 92-93 dak cable for replacement

thats what I came away with after reading up on it some

Posted By: Junky

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 05:07 AM

For anyone that cares:

I installed mine with minimal effort. The throttle pressure lever is all but all the way back at WOT. At very light throttle (granny driving) it shifts into 3rd arould 15 mph. Leaving it in Drive with the throttle to the floor it will shift gear to gear right about 4,900 RPM's. Disclosure: I do run the TransGo "shift kit". I've been running it this way for over 5 years now. The transmission shifts as solid today as it did 5 years ago. I'm convinced that it is working as good, if not better, than the stock setup...and looks better too.

Posted By: cogen80

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 11:18 AM

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Not a problem? OK, if you say so. It's not unusual to see these Lokar installations have light throttle 1-2 shifts at 25+ mph and 2-3 at 40+ mph or even higher and, possibly, no 2-3 upshift at all. If that's OK with you then, "no problem". If the cable is adjusted for correct light throttle shift points there is insufficient TP at WOT and no forced downshifts. Potential damage.

man i don't know what you are doing or whoever is installing lokar set ups that are having those problems are doing but i have been using lokar kick downs since the early to mid 90's, installed them on all my cars and numerous friends car and have never run into a problem like you describe. sounds like total idiots installed the ones your talking about. some people just should not wrench on their cars. the kick down sure isn't rocker science.

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 12:13 PM

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Not a problem? OK, if you say so. It's not unusual to see these Lokar installations have light throttle 1-2 shifts at 25+ mph and 2-3 at 40+ mph or even higher and, possibly, no 2-3 upshift at all. If that's OK with you then, "no problem". If the cable is adjusted for correct light throttle shift points there is insufficient TP at WOT and no forced downshifts. Potential damage.

man i don't know what you are doing or whoever is installing lokar set ups that are having those problems are doing but i have been using lokar kick downs since the early to mid 90's, installed them on all my cars and numerous friends car and have never run into a problem like you describe. sounds like total idiots installed the ones your talking about. some people just should not wrench on their cars. the kick down sure isn't rocker science.

Throttle pressure, not a kick down!!!

Right John?

I bet alot of manuel valve bodies have been sold over the years because of the confusion over TP on TF.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 12:55 PM

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For anyone that cares:

I installed mine with minimal effort. The throttle pressure lever is all but all the way back at WOT. At very light throttle (granny driving) it shifts into 3rd arould 15 mph. Leaving it in Drive with the throttle to the floor it will shift gear to gear right about 4,900 RPM's. Disclosure: I do run the TransGo "shift kit". I've been running it this way for over 5 years now. The transmission shifts as solid today as it did 5 years ago. I'm convinced that it is working as good, if not better, than the stock setup...and looks better too.

Junky WOT throttle shifts are controlled by the govenor weights in the back of the trans .

Stumpy/Richard/Dick ... lighten up Francis

, are you installing the Lokar out of the box or are you fixing it so it operates CORRECTLY ??? I'll go on a limb and say that most of the buyers of the Lokar install it out of the box and call it good when it's not.

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 02:19 PM

dummy 101 here

LBAMVB is the the correct way to loose the tpcl

or swap in a 4 speed

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 02:33 PM

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dummy 101 here

LBAMVB is the the correct way to loose the tpcl

or swap in a 4 speed

Posted By: Junky

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 02:57 PM

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Junky WOT throttle shifts are controlled by the govenor weights in the back of the trans , but you give a perfect example of what J. Kunkel is talking about, people think it's working fine when it's really not, it won't fry the trans overnight.

Can you please point out where my setup is not working fine? So I get the explanation of WOT shifts incorrect and now I'm incompetent? And the Lokar kit isn't working correctly? There is nothing about my setup that suggests that it's not working properly. This is not based on what I THINK, it's based on my experience of the situation. Have you worked on or driven my Coronet? Perfect example, my foot. Enough said.

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 03:12 PM

call it what you want. its a kickdown cable or kickdown linkage to most people.

I was just kidding you...

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 03:13 PM

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Can you please point out where my setup is not working fine? So I get the explanation of WOT shifts incorrect and now I'm incompetent? And the Lokar kit isn't working correctly? There is nothing about my setup that suggests that it's not working properly. This is not based on what I THINK, it's based on my experience of the situation. Have you worked on or driven my Coronet? Perfect example, my foot. Enough said.

My bad and I will edit, I confused your post with another poster that SAID HE FRYED his trans with a LOAKR he THOUGHT was working properly .
I was trying to consolidate replies , silly me ...

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 03:15 PM

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So, as I've repeatedly ranted, the Lokar works OK if the installer knows to match the total travel of the cable attach points and installs a spring.

The Bouchillon kit contains the trans lever so there's no mismatch in travel and it uses a more robust, easily located cable.

I think this is the main thing Lokar buyers should be aware of. My first observation of the Lokar kit was the horrible directions. I installed mine as per directions on a freshly rebuilt 727 & thought it was right, 2 years & the tranny was toast. Then I learned more about throttle position importance, had the trans. rebuilt again, and again used the Lokar cable, WITH MODIFIED MOUNT POSITION ON TRANS. KICK DOWN LEVER. Its working fine so far, but I keep a close eye on adjustment. I bought it, I'm using it, but I would not buy another one. Bouchillion or a manual valve body next time.

You give a perfect example of what J. Kunkel is talking about, people think it's working fine when it's really not, it won't fry the trans overnight.

Posted By: Junky

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 03:22 PM

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Can you please point out where my setup is not working fine? So I get the explanation of WOT shifts incorrect and now I'm incompetent? And the Lokar kit isn't working correctly? There is nothing about my setup that suggests that it's not working properly. This is not based on what I THINK, it's based on my experience of the situation. Have you worked on or driven my Coronet? Perfect example, my foot. Enough said.

My bad and I will edit, I confused your post with another poster that SAID HE FRYED his trans with a LOAKR he THOUGHT was working properly .
I was trying to consolidate replies , silly me ...

Thank you, sir, for the correction to your comments and for informing me of the workings of the WOT shift points.

Posted By: 68HemiB

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 03:49 PM

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dummy 101 here

LBAMVB is the the correct way to loose the tpcl

or swap in a 4 speed

Let's Buy A Manual Valve Body is the correct way to lose the throttle pressure control linkage.

Or something close.

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 04:02 PM

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dummy 101 here

LBAMVB is the the correct way to loose the tpcl

or swap in a 4 speed

Let's Buy A Manual Valve Body is the correct way to lose the throttle pressure control linkage.

Or something close.

Ahhh, thank you.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 05:57 PM

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dummy 101 here

LBAMVB is the the correct way to loose the tpcl

or swap in a 4 speed

Let's Buy A Manual Valve Body is the correct way to lose the throttle pressure control linkage.

Or something close.

Low Band Apply Manual Valve Body

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 06:06 PM

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OK all you Lokar guys, I just received mine and I'm in the middle of installing it. I could really use some advice, tips, step-by-step detailed instructions on how to get it adjusted so it works properly. In case it matters, it's on a '70 Cuda, 440-6, 727.

THANKS!!

IT WILL NOT WORK ON A 6-Pack... return it and get a Man valve body or eat $350 and get the correct KICK-DOWN or whatever you want to call it.

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 06:10 PM

See this piece??? your 6-pack 'aint got one. SOOOO you will have to fabricate one. I looked around an nobody seems to have one or know what I'm talking about. I had a Lokar, I fumbled with it and it's terrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiible instructions for 20 minutes before I but it back in the box.

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Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 06:59 PM

yes,Johnahah is correct

low band apply manual valve body

lets buy a manual valve body was a good try though

IMO the bouchillon looks like its all from a 93 Dak...my 93 Dak has every thing but the lever that goes on the carb for the right ratio

rplacement cable from the dealer fits it,and the lever on the tranz is the same as far as I can tell

seems they worked it out at ma mopar and bouchillon just went a little further adapting it to the carb

I have burnt up more trannys than I care to admit,and its all because I have not got the right throttle pressure control linkage and its close to right but not right...

so to loose it,get the LBAMVB or a 4 speed

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 07:17 PM

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See this piece??? your 6-pack 'aint got one. SOOOO you will have to fabricate one. I looked around an nobody seems to have one or know what I'm talking about. I had a Lokar, I fumbled with it and it's terrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiible instructions for 20 minutes before I but it back in the box.

I guess you didn't look at my picture above.Didn't cost me anything, because I had it laying around.

Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 08:01 PM

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Anything you say John. The rest of us are just too stupid to know when we have something that doesn't work as we drive with it every day for years without any failures.

I made a statement containing the words many of those and you seem to assume that I, somehow, was directing the comment at you and your installation(s).

Since I gave clear examples of how the installation can go wrong, and you with your God-given prowess aren't having those problems, I would respectfully suggest you get off of your "I wanna argue about everything" mode and recognize that the comment wasn't aimed at everybody.."some" being the operative word.

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 08:48 PM

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See this piece??? your 6-pack 'aint got one. SOOOO you will have to fabricate one. I looked around an nobody seems to have one or know what I'm talking about. I had a Lokar, I fumbled with it and it's terrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiible instructions for 20 minutes before I but it back in the box.

I guess you didn't look at my picture above.Didn't cost me anything, because I had it laying around.

No I didn't some pic's don't open at work..anyway what is that from? how long did it take to rig up? I just got a new man valve body form a buddy...

it will be going in sooooon. Then I can drop kick all this junk.

Posted By: stumpy

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 09:42 PM

"I would respectfully suggest you get off of your "I wanna argue about everything" mode". You might try taking your own advice.

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 09:51 PM

Posted By: CHRGR69

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 11:02 PM

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"I would respectfully suggest you get off of your "I wanna argue about everything" mode". You might try taking your own advice.

To many dam egos on this forum. Why can't we just respect other's methods of repair, maybe offer easier solutions without standing on a soap box and BASHING

every other product and form of repair. It is getting real old!

Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/14/09 11:23 PM

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"I would respectfully suggest you get off of your "I wanna argue about everything" mode". You might try taking your own advice.

The pot advises the kettle.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/15/09 12:13 AM

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"I would respectfully suggest you get off of your "I wanna argue about everything" mode". You might try taking your own advice.

To many dam egos on this forum. Why can't we just respect other's methods of repair, maybe offer easier solutions without standing on a soap box and BASHING every other product and form of repair. It is getting real old!

you must be new here

Posted By: CHRGR69

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/15/09 12:34 AM

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"I would respectfully suggest you get off of your "I wanna argue about everything" mode". You might try taking your own advice.

To many dam egos on this forum. Why can't we just respect other's methods of repair, maybe offer easier solutions without standing on a soap box and BASHING every other product and form of repair. It is getting real old!

you must be new here

June 05. Long enough to know whinning when I hear it.

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/15/09 03:20 AM

let go my eggo

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/15/09 01:00 PM

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let go my ego

fixed

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/15/09 02:35 PM

now its back to samantics

I was going to say throttle pressure control linkage

I meant to say eggo

what was this post about? I would hate to re read it again

Posted By: CHRGR69

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/15/09 05:13 PM

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now its back to samantics

I was going to say throttle pressure control linkage

I meant to say eggo

what was this post about? I would hate to re read it again

What a joke, huh?

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/15/09 06:31 PM

yep!

no wonder I have an even harder time trying to learn somthing than I usally do

Posted By: RacerGofKGB

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/15/09 09:27 PM

Did someone mention waffles?!

Posted By: stumpy

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/16/09 02:36 AM

With maple syrup. YYUUMMMM!! Sausage or bacon on the side?

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 07/16/09 03:37 AM

bacon..bacon..bacon...with mayonaz

well did we get the lokar cable...er I mean the bouchillon..er..throttle presure control linkage hooked up???

Posted By: plazomat

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 10/31/15 10:53 PM

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Yeah I like this setup...still trying to get my lokar cabled 904 to shift right..

PLAZ

Posted By: BulletBob

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 11/02/15 11:01 AM

Originally Posted By John_Kunkel

It's worth noting that many of those who claim to have no problems with the Lokar actually do have problems, they just don't know it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif" alt="" />

That's for sure
There are 4-5 levers made by Chrysler for kickdown on the trans so there's no way every Lokar kit works perfect
I sold the Lokar & installed them for years until Bouchillion came out with theirs
I'll never recommend another Lokar kit unless it's for a GM application
The hole drilling & using erector set metal to get the ratio right is over

Made by Mopar people using mostly all Mopar parts not GM designed to fit a Mopar

Posted By: moparx

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 11/03/15 03:11 PM

save your money and use the bouchillon kit or the factory rods/linkage. in my several experiences with the lokar crap, the bracketry was tin can flimsy and the cable stretched endlessly, never staying adjusted. i'm glad it wasn't my $80ish bux invested. i could have fabbed up a better setup using bicycle cable. all 3 setups were eventually trash canned in favor of the factory setup.

Posted By: BulletBob

Re: Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable - 11/04/15 10:30 AM

Originally Posted By moparx

I fabbed one together before Bouchillion did with the help & advice of John Kunkel & JohnRR using factory parts along with a throttle cable bracket that I made myself & a piece of Erector set metal that I used many times when I tuned the Lokar crap to work
I had a new Lokar in the wrapper that I threw in the trash this past spring while cleaning out my garage

Help with Lokar Kickdown Cable