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Possible to make a charger from another b body?

Posted By: roadrunninMark

Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 12:44 AM

Just thinking out loud here. I like the 69 chargers and with the crazy prices, is it possible to use a coronet to convert into a charger? I realize the amount of body panels needed but if you replace everything, is the basic inner structure the same? Also, what about a 4 door to a 2 door? I know the guy that does the Dukes cars uses a ford crown vic but I had something that really looks like a charger vs. using a ford, so things like back windows and such could be functional.

I figure a ratty charger is going to need most of the metal replaced anyway…
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 12:55 AM

People have built Charger convertibles out of Coronet convertible platforms so I don't see why it couldn't be done.

It's mainly the outer stuff that's different.
Posted By: poorboy

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 02:34 AM

I would think the 68-70 Charger rear roof & rear window area would be needed to pull off the rebody. then add the quarters, door skins and front sheet metal. If the donor car was a 4 door body, you would also have to do a 4 door to 2 door conversion.

The question no one else will ask is: How do you think your going to get it titled as a Charger?
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 02:46 AM

No not titled as a charger, if it were to ever happen. My idea would be to put the body over the chassis of an electric car. A “.General Electric” lol or general E

Is there info on 4 door to 2 door conversions?
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by poorboy
I would think the 68-70 Charger rear roof & rear window area would be needed to pull off the rebody. then add the quarters, door skins and front sheet metal. If the donor car was a 4 door body, you would also have to do a 4 door to 2 door conversion.

The question no one else will ask is: How do you think your going to get it titled as a Charger?


Some states only show the year, Dodge and Tudor for the body style.
Posted By: ruderunner

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 10:06 AM

Of course it can be done, it's basically what the factory did. If you don't mind the slight change in wheelbase you can even use a Plymouth donor. One would be much better off starting with a 2 door that shares much of the inner panels and roof structure but it can be done with a 4 door.
Posted By: Mr T2U

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 11:52 AM

depends on your skill level and equipment on hand.
welder, cutting wheels and frame bench almost anything is possible.
if you value your time doing this probably isn't economically feasible. in the end you will end up with a Frankenstein type car with low value.

Posted By: Sniper

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Mr T2U
depends on your skill level and equipment on hand.
welder, cutting wheels and frame bench almost anything is possible.
if you value your time doing this probably isn't economically feasible. in the end you will end up with a Frankenstein type car with low value.



You apparently didn't read the OP's full plan.

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My idea would be to put the body over the chassis of an electric car.
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 01:53 PM

Definitely agree it would be easier to start with a 2 door. My skill level is low so I don’t think I could pull off a 4 door to 2 door conversion. I would need the wheelbase to stay very close to a charger too, within a half inch. This is just something I have been thinking about for some time, still have my hands full with 2 other cars.
Posted By: TC@HP2

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 02:09 PM

I've thought about doing his over a race chassis with Challenger panels. It can be done for a few grand worth of replacement panels. However, in my case I wouldn't' t need the inner structure to hang interior from and I wouldn't be concerned with how tight and weather proof it would all be. Adding the inner structures would likely double the cost (unless you have a donor for all/most of these) and complexity and then you have the challenge of melding of the donor chassis to the new body structure and adjusting for those differences in alignment to create a solid appearance.

Possible, sure, easy, not at all. There are a number of these out there. Do a deep dive into google to find them. I think even the Hot Rod Magazine archives may have a few.
Posted By: chargervert

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
No not titled as a charger, if it were to ever happen. My idea would be to put the body over the chassis of an electric car. A “.General Electric” lol or general E

Is there info on 4 door to 2 door conversions?




It makes me want to hurl up my breakfast that anyone would consider doing this to a Charger even a fake one! That said,a Charger can be built out of any 68 to 70 B body Mopar if you have the Charger specific pieces..

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Posted By: Moparite

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/10/23 06:18 PM

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A “.General Electric” lol or general E

NOOOO! If i where going to "electrify" a classic it would have the nads to do burnouts into the sunset. Your donor Prius is not going to do that. Not sure what's out there that can give you that kind of performance with out a second mortgage. It may be cheaper to mod the body to accept the battery and use some aftermarket combination of parts to get some decent performance. Just my twocents
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/11/23 04:43 PM

It would be a Tesla model S underneath…not a Prius! It would have more power than an old charger ever had. The wheel base is only 1/2” different. Now getting it everything else to fit right is another story.

There is a guy that did a satellite as you mentioned, many videos on YouTube..called electrolite.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/11/23 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by ruderunner
Of course it can be done, it's basically what the factory did. If you don't mind the slight change in wheelbase you can even use a Plymouth donor. One would be much better off starting with a 2 door that shares much of the inner panels and roof structure but it can be done with a 4 door.


The main part of the wheelbase change is in the front spring hangers, Dodge used longer than Plymouth . Since you are going to be changing the quarters, wheelhouses and trunk floor making a Plymouth into a Charger is not much different than staring with a Coronet
Posted By: Moparite

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/11/23 04:58 PM

Don't know if you seen it but i believe it was West Coast Customs did a few body on different frame builds. I know one was a charger on one of the newer 4 door things with the charger name on it.
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/11/23 06:54 PM

JohnRR - good to know about the wheelbase just being the spring hangers... that opens up more possible donors then.

Moparite - I will look for WCC body swaps and see what I can find. Did you see on Youtube? I know a channel called "B is for Build" is taking a model 3 and is supposed to put it under a Lambo body. They have a few videos of when they take the model 3 apart and see how much faster it is, it picked up a second in the 0 to 60.
Posted By: Old_Moparz

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/12/23 03:08 PM

Other than the body lines in the outer sheet metal not lining up with the quarter panels, the entire nose & doors of a Charger will bolt right onto another B-Body. The rear clip & rear window will be the hardest. There are slight differences in the years between 1968, 1969 & 1970 like the 1968 having the hood bumpers mounted to the corner where the radiator support meets the inner fender instead of being on the actual fender. The other is where some of the fender mounts bolt to the left & right side of the radiator opening. I had to redrill one on each side putting a 1970 nose on a 1969 car. It's been a long time since I played around with parts swapping but that's what I remember most.
Posted By: ruderunner

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/12/23 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by ruderunner
Of course it can be done, it's basically what the factory did. If you don't mind the slight change in wheelbase you can even use a Plymouth donor. One would be much better off starting with a 2 door that shares much of the inner panels and roof structure but it can be done with a 4 door.


The main part of the wheelbase change is in the front spring hangers, Dodge used longer than Plymouth . Since you are going to be changing the quarters, wheelhouses and trunk floor making a Plymouth into a Charger is not much different than staring with a Coronet


Pretty sure the shackle mounts are different too. But easy enough while the trunk floor is out. Really though, does 1 inch justify the work to change?
Posted By: Moparite

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/16/23 01:34 PM

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Did you see on Youtube?

No i watched it when it was on TV years ago.
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/18/23 01:11 AM

Ruderunner- shackle mounts won't be an issue if I am using the chassis from the electric car. Basically I would start at the cab and go backwards Also go down to the outer rocker panels from the old car. All the frame, suspension, floor, firewall, etc. would be from the new car. I would like to use the old dash with the new electronics in it. I would keep the wing vent windows, making it look like an old charger as much as possible. I thought about how to make it more areo as well. I would make the hood bend down in the front, like the new EV Charger and GT40. But, I would have the entire grill area open to flow above the hood. The headlights would be mounted from above where they would be normally. They would point down and be reflected on an angled mirror. The angled mirrors would also deflect the air through to the hood. This should really cut down on drag.

If I had some talent at drawing, I would draw it up and see what it would look like. Right now, it just lives in my imagination.

Moparite - still looking to try and find the WCC episode.
Posted By: ruderunner

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/19/23 12:11 AM

So not really what the title says. You're not going to need a B body, just the Charger panels to hang on an EV chassis.
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: Possible to make a charger from another b body? - 09/19/23 01:30 PM

I would need the shell from a b body.
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