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Temp. sending unit leaking

Posted By: markrr

Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/23/23 07:10 PM

I installed a new 440 Source aluminum water pump housing on my 440 with a new aftermarket temperature sending unit. The sending unit leaked through the threads. I replaced the new sensor with my old stock unit and it also leaks. The leak is very small but it's still a leak. Can I put anything on the sending unit threads such as teflon tape or teflon paste (pipe dope) or will a sealant block the sensor's ground? Would a small rubber o ring work?
Thanks for any help.
Posted By: therocks

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/23/23 07:23 PM

try a bit of permatex brown usually works
Posted By: moparjim79

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/23/23 07:54 PM

Tape or dope is fine. Use both sparingly. Never a problem here, both iron and aluminum intakes...
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/23/23 08:19 PM

Permatex Pipe Sealant

You won't have a leak with this material. Just don't tighten it excessively or you probably won't get it out. Just a comment, the concern about insulating the sensor is misplaced, Pipe threads are tapered so the thread flanks will always have metal/metal contact. Thread sealant does nothing but fill the voids in the threads.
Posted By: terzmo

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/23/23 09:39 PM

High temp silicone on threads. let it cure overnight
Posted By: EW1BH27

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/23/23 09:55 PM

I have teflon tape near the top of the threads.

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Posted By: IMGTX

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/23/23 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by moparjim79
Tape or dope is fine. Use both sparingly. Never a problem here, both iron and aluminum intakes...


I agree.

The teflon tape & pipe dope fills the gaps in the threads but when you tighten the sensor down you will get metal to metal contact through much of the threads.
Posted By: metallicareload

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/24/23 12:04 AM

iagree My stock temp gauge didn’t work at first with a new sensor that had PTFE tape on the threads, tightened it more and now it works up
Posted By: CYACOP

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/24/23 12:57 AM

Perfect application for Never-Seez.
Posted By: PhillyRag

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/24/23 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by markrr
I installed a new 440 Source aluminum water pump housing on my 440 with a new aftermarket temperature sending unit. The sending unit leaked through the threads. I replaced the new sensor with my old stock unit and it also leaks. The leak is very small but it's still a leak. Can I put anything on the sending unit threads such as teflon tape or teflon paste (pipe dope) or will a sealant block the sensor's ground? Would a small rubber o ring work?
Thanks for any help.


You installed a sensor into Aluminum & didn't use anything on the threads??
tsk tsk tsk tsk
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/24/23 02:27 AM

Teflon tape or paste on NPT threads - always.
Posted By: moparx

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/24/23 02:58 PM

i use loctite 567 paste for everything.
works with gasoline, oils, natural gas, propane, butane, potable water, water tanks, and any type of antifreeze.
good for any type of fittings as well.
been using this stuff for 40 years or so, and i really like it.
beer
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/24/23 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
i use loctite 567 paste for everything.
works with gasoline, oils, natural gas, propane, butane, potable water, water tanks, and any type of antifreeze.
good for any type of fittings as well.
been using this stuff for 40 years or so, and i really like it.
beer


That's the Loctite equivalent of the Permatex 59214 I use. Good stuff whichever you choose. up
Posted By: markrr

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/24/23 07:32 PM

Thanks for the replies. I used the high temp silicone that I have.
Posted By: markrr

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/24/23 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by markrr
I installed a new 440 Source aluminum water pump housing on my 440 with a new aftermarket temperature sending unit. The sending unit leaked through the threads. I replaced the new sensor with my old stock unit and it also leaks. The leak is very small but it's still a leak. Can I put anything on the sending unit threads such as teflon tape or teflon paste (pipe dope) or will a sealant block the sensor's ground? Would a small rubber o ring work?
Thanks for any help.


You installed a sensor into Aluminum & didn't use anything on the threads??
tsk tsk tsk tsk


No I didn't. I assumed, incorrectly, that sealant on the threads would impede the grounding between the sensor and the housing. Now I know better.
Posted By: moparx

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/25/23 06:42 PM

having to repair many threaded connections over the years where dis-similar materials were used, it doesn't take long to learn about anti-seize and sealants.
and stainless threaded connections are "fun" unto themselves. panic biggrin
beer
Posted By: 360view

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/26/23 12:32 PM

Stainless steel thumb screws into aluminum rods at a seacoast
led me to create many new curse words.

I also made the mistake of assuming Dielectric Grease would hurt electrical connections
because I had been lectured over and over that
“Grounding connections to divert lightning strikes to Earth ground must be kept totally free of paint or visible corrosion”
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/26/23 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by 360view
Stainless steel thumb screws into aluminum rods at a seacoast
led me to create many new curse words.

I also made the mistake of assuming Dielectric Grease would hurt electrical connections
because I had been lectured over and over that
“Grounding connections to divert lightning strikes to Earth ground must be kept totally free of paint or visible corrosion”


Same basic approach. I've had people tell me not to use dielectric grease on light bulbs "because it insulates the bulb". No, you still have electrical continuity at the mechanical contact points. The grease just fills the voids to prevent corrosion.
Posted By: John Brown

Re: Temp. sending unit leaking - 03/26/23 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
having to repair many threaded connections over the years where dis-similar materials were used, it doesn't take long to learn about anti-seize and sealants.
and stainless threaded connections are "fun" unto themselves. panic biggrin
beer


Brass fittings seem to be the cure when used in aluminum. Have always been able to easily remove the brass ones from my swap meet intake buys while the steel fittings give me giant headaches.
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