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What are you using for oil in your 4 speed?

Posted By: ragtop

What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/27/21 05:00 PM

I have a 1971 833 23 spline 4-speed 340 car. My trans up shifts great, but have a tough time down shifting. I am currently using 85W-90 gear oil compatible with brass stop rings. The coldest temperature that I would drive it would be 50 degrees and the warmest would be 90 degrees.
I was wondering if auto trans fluid would make it down shift easier.
Posted By: IMGTX

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/27/21 05:04 PM

I used to run Gear oil in the summer and auto transmission in the winter and occasionally a mix if the shift wasn't to my liking.

The old 833's like a good fluid but are pretty flexible.
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/27/21 05:31 PM

Redline 75W-90NS synthetic.

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Posted By: metallicareload

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/27/21 06:13 PM

I think I've used 85W-90 once year round, I just switched back to 85W-140. Below freezing it's like trying to stir molasses? until the trans warms up some. But it still shifts fine on the road. I put 37,000+ miles with RedLine 75W-90 NS. All that being said, I've never noticed a significant difference between any of the fluids. It might shift "better" now with the 85W-140, maybe I don't know how to drive shruggy drive
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/27/21 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by ragtop
I have a 1971 833 23 spline 4-speed 340 car. My trans up shifts great, but have a tough time down shifting. I am currently using 85W-90 gear oil compatible with brass stop rings. The coldest temperature that I would drive it would be 50 degrees and the warmest would be 90 degrees.
I was wondering if auto trans fluid would make it down shift easier.
. If it up shifts okay but hard down shifting, the brass rings are probably gone and need replaced. Auto transmission fluid will make it shift easier, if everything was okay before you put the ATF in. If everything was not okay, then I doubt it will make a difference. If you want to try a different fluid, try 2 1/2 qts of regular engine oil. Maybe like a 30 weight. It is GL 4 like ATF and syncro oils.
Posted By: Cuda340

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/27/21 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by 68LAR
Originally Posted by ragtop
I have a 1971 833 23 spline 4-speed 340 car. My trans up shifts great, but have a tough time down shifting. I am currently using 85W-90 gear oil compatible with brass stop rings. The coldest temperature that I would drive it would be 50 degrees and the warmest would be 90 degrees.
I was wondering if auto trans fluid would make it down shift easier.
. If it up shifts okay but hard down shifting, the brass rings are probably gone and need replaced. Auto transmission fluid will make it shift easier, if everything was okay before you put the ATF in. If everything was not okay, then I doubt it will make a difference. If you want to try a different fluid, try 2 1/2 qts of regular engine oil. Maybe like a 30 weight. It is GL 4 like ATF and syncro oils.


This is correct.
Posted By: mopardude318

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/27/21 10:50 PM

Pennzoil Synchromesh.
Posted By: Plum440

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/28/21 01:23 AM

85W-90 here. No problems and smooooth shifting!
Posted By: Ramrod39

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/28/21 02:02 AM

The tired (I guess) 833 in my road runner did not shift as silky smooth as I would have liked when using 90 weight. I put ATF in it and it made a small difference. It did leak slightly with the thinner ATF though.
Posted By: fastmark

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/28/21 09:19 AM

I tried Amzoil synthetic in mine and it would not shift well at all. Went back the the lighter 85-90w and it went back to shifting fine.
Posted By: TOMRR

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/28/21 01:08 PM

I use the oil Jamie Passon sells in my 833 4-speed
Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/28/21 02:21 PM

RedLine MTL
https://www.redlineoil.com/mtl-75w80-gl-4-gear-oil
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/28/21 04:24 PM

I've been running 85/90W GL-4 for the last 42 years in my Challenger T/A.... I change it out about every 10 years
Posted By: DrCharles

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/29/21 10:54 PM

Another vote for Pennzoil Synchromesh here.
drive
Posted By: 70sixpkrt

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/29/21 11:45 PM

StaLube 85-90 GL-4
Posted By: 1969ronnie

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/30/21 04:47 PM

Another Pennzoil Synchromesh user . drive But when I ONLY want Mopar Fluid in my MOPAR's the Manual Tranny Lube Part # 0487446AB also works Great , just like the Pennzoil . Olanturn
Posted By: GomangoCuda

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/30/21 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by DrCharles
Another vote for Pennzoil Synchromesh here.
drive

Same here.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 09/30/21 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by 451Mopar


I've been using MTL for years in my Coronet. Seems to work okay.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: What are you using for oil in your 4 speed? - 10/01/21 07:23 PM

Pennzoil synchromesh in the my dad's 4 speed six pack road runner. Works great.
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