Posted By: Stanton
What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 01:37 AM
The brace between the lower rad support and the K member ???
Posted By: stumpy
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 02:15 AM
Helps stop damage when you curb the frontend.
Posted By: PhillyRag
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 03:11 AM
Helps stop damage when you curb the frontend.
Probably not the factory reason, but it sure as heck does act that way in everyday driving.
Posted By: moparx
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 05:36 PM
Posted By: lewtot184
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 06:45 PM
supports the core support. never seen one full of holes.
Posted By: John_Kunkel
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 06:59 PM
The radiator opening in the core support weakens it, the strut provides added support.
Posted By: Stanton
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 08:31 PM
The radiator opening in the core support weakens it, the strut provides added support.
Well this still makes no sense. The top and bottom bends in the lower support are what would give it any longitudinal strength, not that itty-bitty bracket that's attached with 5/16 grade 2 bolts that are mounted in shear !!
Posted By: burdar
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 08:45 PM
I always thought its main purpose was to support the lower rad support. Something else it MIGHT do is protect the K from obstacles in the road if you hit them. The K is lowest in the center, right where that brace mounts. If you hit something in the road, chances are the center of the K is what will make contact. With that brace in the middle, the car might go up and over the obstacle instead of it slamming into the K. Just speculation on my part.
Posted By: Stanton
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 10:07 PM
I always thought its main purpose was to support the lower rad support. Something else it MIGHT do is protect the K from obstacles in the road if you hit them. The K is lowest in the center, right where that brace mounts. If you hit something in the road, chances are the center of the K is what will make contact. With that brace in the middle, the car might go up and over the obstacle instead of it slamming into the K. Just speculation on my part.
Hmmm ..., I suspect anything of significance would 1) buckle that brace 2) drag the lower rad support back 3) pull the whole rad support out of shape.
Besides, I think the front sway bar hangs lower than that brace !!
Posted By: Alaskan_TA
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/17/21 10:10 PM
Chrysler added this brace to thousands and thousands of cars for one reason;
It was a practical joke on their part just to see if one guy decades later got upset at the sight of one.
I guess it worked?
Posted By: Sniper
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/18/21 12:00 AM
It's there to prevent shake, not support it.
Posted By: Stanton
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/18/21 12:26 AM
Who's upset ?!?!?
I misplaced mine decades ago. Now close to putting the car back together (not a resto) and considering welding up that hole in the K - unless someone out there can justify putting that support back on.
Posted By: TJP
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/18/21 12:26 AM
The radiator opening in the core support weakens it, the strut provides added support.
X3
BTW a 5/16 grade 5 bolt can have a shear point of almost 6,000 lbs
Posted By: Stanton
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/18/21 12:37 AM
The radiator opening in the core support weakens it, the strut provides added support.
X3
BTW a 5/16 grade 5 bolt can have a shear point of almost 6,000 lbs
BTW ... a 4000 pound car moving at 5 mph will exert 20,000 pounds of force. That bolt doesn't stand a prayer !!!
Posted By: poorboy
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/18/21 01:04 AM
I've seen them bent pretty bad and still be bolted in place, so they must help with some support.
I suspect the idea was to deflect, rather then stop something. The lower radiator support sits several inches below the frame rails and is made from boxed sheet metal. The K member is made from 11 gauge steel and is pretty robust, as far as a unibody car goes. That little bracket bolted to the lower radiator support and to the K member sits at enough of an angle, I suspect it seldom sees a direct impact, at most events of contact, whatever it is encountering would likely simply lift the front of the car on the suspension, deflection. Parking blocks come to mind, the bracket and the two bolts would be stout enough to lift the front end of the car up. It would also be strong enough to support the weight of the car resting on that parking block, and would also assist the lower radiator support when the car s backed away from the parking block. Without the bracket, the car could bounce over the parking block (with some damage to the radiator support) but then could potentially come to rest on the lower crank pulley, or the lower radiator host. Then when the car is backed off the parking block, the bottom of the radiator could be what makes contact to lift the front end back over the block.
In the unibody picture, it adds support to the lower radiator support to assist in it not bending rearwards simply by being attached at an angle, with the other end attached to the more robust K member. It could also prevent stuff from being trapped between the radiator and the K member.
If it was my car, I would bolt it back on. Gene
Posted By: bee1971
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/18/21 02:19 AM
Man what a small world
I literally just literally installed one on my 71 Bee this afternoon
I know for a fact it hasn’t been on the car for over 30 years
Didn’t realize the E Body ones also fit the 71/72 B Body until this past weekend at the Mopar Nationals when I bought one in the swap meet
Hardest part was figuring out the attachment hardware - And then realizing that carriage bolt has to slide in under the radiator
Fun I say fun
I can say , that brace sits directly below where both auto transmission steel cooling lines come together over the K Frame to the radiator
Even added the Plastic Splash Shields to the front frame , between the K Member - Aftermarket new
Now I know what those small holes in the front frame rails where used for
The factory stuff that disappear s over the decades, probably before I even bought the car , who knows
Posted By: Ramrod39
Re: What purpose does this serve? - 08/18/21 03:13 AM
The radiator opening in the core support weakens it, the strut provides added support.
X3
BTW a 5/16 grade 5 bolt can have a shear point of almost 6,000 lbs
BTW ... a 4000 pound car moving at 5 mph will exert 20,000 pounds of force. That bolt doesn't stand a prayer !!!
But that 20,000 pounds of force will be distributed throughout the front end, it will not be all concentrated on that one bolt. I say the bolt wins this scenario.