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a dumb question but curious

Posted By: ohiodemon

a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 12:48 AM

has anyone ever swapped a 351 based ford engine into an a-body duster/demon ?
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 12:50 AM

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Posted By: ohiodemon

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 12:51 AM

lol, i just wondering, maybe the effects of coronavirus ?
Posted By: Dave_J

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 01:10 AM

Heard they fit the Chevy Chevelle SS 396 chasses good.
Posted By: skicker

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 01:37 AM

The only guy that did is in jail for Meth possession... shruggy
Posted By: topside

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 04:29 AM

I doubt anyone's crazy enough to do that swap: less power & more problems...
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 04:39 AM

Windsor or Cleveland?
I'm thinking both have front sump oil pans correct work scope
Posted By: hemicar1971

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 04:44 AM

I do not think that would be a good thing to do or attempt. How many small block Chrysler were built and still being built. People would rather swap a Gen 3 Hemi with wiring harness and all other parts to make it run like a new vehicle. But I know of a few that have swapped an SRT4 Turbo into a Fox Body Mustang making it a rear wheel drive. None of these Brand X changes I would do.
Posted By: Sixpak

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 05:08 AM

Maybe I'm mistaken and remembering this wrong, but wasn't there someone here with a Dart with a paint scheme sort of like a P 51 Mustang that had a Ford motor?
Posted By: PhillyRag

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by ohiodemon
has anyone ever swapped a 351 based ford engine into an a-body duster/demon ?


Seems plausible if you had a nicely worked up one already w/trans. And if you were replacing a worn/beaten 318, 6-cyl, or a smog 360.
Would love to see the looks on the Mopar Crazys faces at a show
Posted By: Jjs72D

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by ohiodemon
has anyone ever swapped a 351 based ford engine into an a-body duster/demon ?

Only a moron with a very limited scope of common sense and intellect.
Posted By: ohiodemon

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 12:15 PM

lol, the motor i have is a 420 cid stroker windsor dyno'd at 787 hp. so its a no joke engine trans is a g force 101a. body is a 71 duster very straight and very clean.
just thinking. probably too much trouble.
Posted By: dvw

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 01:00 PM

Mount it on a plate. The biggest issue is probably the oil pan with the steering linkage. May need a tube thru the pan? The K frame is easy to cut . Custom headers. Maybe late 5.7 Hemi headers with the flanges cut and reworked?
Doug
Posted By: Mr T2U

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ohiodemon
lol, the motor i have is a 420 cid stroker windsor dyno'd at 787 hp. so its a no joke engine trans is a g force 101a. body is a 71 duster very straight and very clean.
just thinking. probably too much trouble.



i disagree with the neg comments about this swap.
doing this swap is what old time hot rodding is all about.
making what you have fast with what you have available to you. i say GO FOR IT.
after saying that, it won't be a easy swap and you won't get much help doing it. so be prepared before you start.
Posted By: DaveRS23

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 02:08 PM

Ford engines in our Mopars?!?!?! What's next? Ford 9" rears in our Mopars?
Posted By: BDW

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 02:14 PM

This is where some 3D modeling software would really tell the story.
If someone develops engines models, it would be easy to “drop it in” and see where the issues are.
Posted By: Sniper

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by BDW
This is where some 3D modeling software would really tell the story.
If someone develops engines models, it would be easy to “drop it in” and see where the issues are.


Lol

It's called a tape measure and it's already done.

The 351w is 1/2" wider, 4" shorter and essentially the same height.


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Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Ford engines in our Mopars?!?!?! What's next? Ford 9" rears in our Mopars?


Exactly up I would round out the swap with a 9" Ford type rear with ZERO factory parts used and then you would have a bulletproof drive train with that G-force box and the track proven stroker Ford engine. Wrap all that up in a Duster with a 4-link and you have a very nice consistent drag car.

Go for it man drive

Gus beer
Posted By: NachoRT74

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Ford engines in our Mopars?!?!?! What's next? Ford 9" rears in our Mopars?


Mopars in Vzla use to get their K member and suspension replaced by the GM half chassis and suspension system ( Novas and Caprice ). I also have seen Ford axles and 350 engines on them... so yes, it can be worst.
Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 04:09 PM

I’d probably chose to just make life easier for myself.

If I “had” to use that motor, I’d find a Ford product to put it in.

There are several Ford bodies I like well enough to use.
Posted By: hemienvy

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 05:41 PM

Where is YOUR oil pump located on the Windsor ?
Posted By: Dave_J

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
I’d probably chose to just make life easier for myself.

If I “had” to use that motor, I’d find a Ford product to put it in.

There are several Ford bodies I like well enough to use.


Maverick Grabber.
Posted By: forphorty

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/22/20 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
I’d probably chose to just make life easier for myself.

If I “had” to use that motor, I’d find a Ford product to put it in.

There are several Ford bodies I like well enough to use.
iagree
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/23/20 02:34 AM

There's plenty of Fox bodies around. That would be a killer setup, plus save the Ford guys the shame of having another Fox end up with an LS in it. boogie
Posted By: hemicar1971

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/23/20 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by slantzilla
There's plenty of Fox bodies around. That would be a killer setup, plus save the Ford guys the shame of having another Fox end up with an LS in it. boogie


Exactly. You want to sell in the future its all Ford and would sell a lot easier. Sell the motor and put a 1000 HP Gen3 Hemi in your Mopar or stuff a Gen 2 Hemi at 636 CI and get a lot more attention than a Ford Motor would.
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/23/20 03:07 PM

Seems like you should be able to make it work if you can fab the parts.

It would be great to see that setup in an original LS car, like a later F body. Especially since Ford guys already think the LS is a copy of a Windsor. Take the LS out of the F body and swap that into the Duster. Then find a Foxbody and put a 318 in that.
Posted By: savoy64

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/23/20 03:18 PM

maybe if you put a power glide on that motor-------anyway everyone has to suffer with the glut of SBC put in other makes of cars-----a local guy has a 1970 426 hemi cuda he brings to shows---he has his wife drive out a 1970? firebird conv with a 440-6pack to park next to it----yes the hoods are up---the GM guys are going nuts-----nah he doesnt want to sell the firebird to any GM guy---he likes it like it is......
Posted By: DusterKid

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/23/20 07:01 PM

Not sure why you would want to do such a thing, but I'm sure it would work with enough fabrication. I'm a die hard Mopar guy, I married a die hard Ford girl. We built a windsor for her 63 falcon. You have do to do a whole lot more to those fords to make them live and make the power of a Mopar engine. Plus if I had a ford engine I'd stick it in a mustang. They are dime a dz and a whole lot lighter and cheaper than a mopar.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/23/20 09:36 PM

I think some of you guys are missing the point. He already has the car and the drive train and he just wants to put it together.
Yea it would be nice to have the money to buy a Mustang and put that drivetrain in it but that wasn't the question shruggy

Gus beer
Posted By: Dave_J

Re: a dumb question but curious - 03/23/20 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by fourgearsavoy
I think some of you guys are missing the point. He already has the car and the drive train and he just wants to put it together.
Yea it would be nice to have the money to buy a Mustang and put that drivetrain in it but that wasn't the question shruggy

Gus beer


I understood his point but I guess the consensus is that 85% say NO, don't do it. All personal opinions is all.

Same consensus over on the VW Bug forums when someone asks about putting a Subaru engine in a BUG. I have a neighbor with a 65 Beetle with 2007 STi running gear that has blown so many minds. But the BUG NUTs are always upset with him....
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