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Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440

Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/14/18 10:44 PM

We are trying an EFI setup for a 440 and one of the main parameters we have to enter is "rear wheel torque value".

440 - .030 with six pack pistons.
3906 heads that were cut .020 or .030 with steel gaskets.
MP .455 lift 272 duration hydraulic cam

Has headers, mandrel 2 1/2 out rear, Street Dominator intake

What's a decent guess at rear wheel torque???

THANKS!!!
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/14/18 10:44 PM

I'm guessing 400 ft lbs??
Posted By: DrCharles

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/15/18 12:37 AM

Only if you're running a 1:1 rear end whistling

Multiply your 400 ft-lb by your rear gear ratio. Then divide by two since half goes to each wheel.

https://x-engineer.org/automotive-engine...-torque-engine/

Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/15/18 12:40 AM

???

It's got 3.91 gears and a 518 4 speed trans.
Asks for a rear wheel torque and says it defaults to mild Chevy 350 specs which it says is is 300 ft lb....
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/15/18 01:55 AM

A strange Q from a very strange dude in miniVancouver ? ... PERISH that tHoUgHt !!

oleHam rElEaSe him nOw ... Or is it visa vErSa ??!!
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/15/18 02:29 AM

Originally Posted By Doc Fiberglass
A strange Q from a very strange dude in miniVancouver ? ... PERISH that tHoUgHt !!

oleHam rElEaSe him nOw ... Or is it visa vErSa ??!!


I'm hungry Doc. Let's go for lunch....?
Hours and hours, and not one guess. lol
We are using 400. Will see how it works

You pay for lunch btw. Mr DeEEEp poCKETs
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/15/18 03:28 AM

Yes cRaZy .., I'll buy but youz gotsta bring oleHam ! ... but after the end of the NHL season ! ... You can drink from THE CUP 'here in Tampa Bay !
Posted By: HemiRick

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/15/18 08:12 AM

Rear wheel torque would be flywheel torque times 1st gear ratio times rear gear ratio and would be a figure in the thousands. This is with a manual trans w an auto the torque converter would increase it even more....
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/15/18 04:04 PM

Throw a number in it and go drive it, then change that number ONLY and see if it likes the change or not scope
TEST, test and test some more until your so happy you know you have it perfect up wrench grin
Watch the AFR output also carefully at part throttle and WOT scope You will know when it is making you very happy work thumbs
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/15/18 11:53 PM

Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Throw a number in it and go drive it, then change that number ONLY and see if it likes the change or not scope
TEST, test and test some more until your so happy you know you have it perfect up wrench grin
Watch the AFR output also carefully at part throttle and WOT scope You will know when it is making you very happy work thumbs


Thanks Cab!! We are doing what you said!!
No concrete figure and we HAVE to enter a number, drives us crazy....
Posted By: DrCharles

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/16/18 12:06 AM

Originally Posted By HemiRick
Rear wheel torque would be flywheel torque times 1st gear ratio times rear gear ratio and would be a figure in the thousands.


Only if the program is expecting MAXIMUM torque at the wheels, and not the ratio in a direct (1:1) high gear. OP didn't specify. And don't forget to divide by 2 since half goes to each wheel.
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/16/18 12:37 AM

Here's an article on 440 mods and dyno numbers to match the mods, compare to yours:

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0301-mopar-440-engine/
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Strange question- REAR WHEEL TORQUE for 440 - 10/17/18 07:55 AM

Originally Posted By John_Kunkel
Here's an article on 440 mods and dyno numbers to match the mods, compare to yours:

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0301-mopar-440-engine/


Absolutely perfect. THANKS!!!!! up
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