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Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions?

Posted By: GoodysGotaCuda

Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 04:00 AM

I have these J-heads that I'd like to clean up and get ready to put to use and there's this lovely valve cover bolt hole in it.

As you can see, it's pretty rough, but it is just a valve cover bolt, so the required torque is very low. I plan on using studs in the valve cover holes to help keep from working this one much in the future.

What do you think?

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Posted By: Andrewh

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 04:22 AM

I don't know if this would work. I would probably oil up a stud or bolt and then put jb weld all over it and insert it and mash it down till it was stuck in as far as I wanted it to go. clean up any extra around the hole to minimize how much I would have to file off later once it hardened.

if the oil works as it should you could then pull the bolt out and have it already threaded for you.

I might even cut a small lip inside for something the jb weld could hold on to better.

but since you know feets, I might see if he could cut it nicely and press a plug in and cut new threads.
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 04:46 AM

They make something like that called form a thread, but I'd look at a helicoil.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 05:22 AM

Quote:
What do you think?
I'd clean it & JBweld in a stud
Posted By: markz528

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 05:22 AM

Looks a little big for a helicoil. Probably needs an insert. But I would not do that by hand. Should be done on a mill or at least bolted down on a good drill press. A drill will wander - need to clean up with an end mill in my opinion.
Posted By: stinger

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 05:28 AM

weld it up,drill it and tap it?
Posted By: calrobb2000

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 05:33 AM

hi

end mill and helicoil


or stud that is larger on one end to thread into over size thread in head
Posted By: bbtrux

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 06:13 AM

drill and tap for a relatively large bolt (3/8, 7/16), cutoff wheel and smooth off excess bolt , and then drill and tap stock size. Did it once on a rearend yoke on a truck, and got away with it. No problem on a low tension valve cover bolt.
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By bbtrux
drill and tap for a relatively large bolt (3/8, 7/16), cutoff wheel and smooth off excess bolt , and then drill and tap stock size. Did it once on a rearend yoke on a truck, and got away with it. No problem on a low tension valve cover bolt.


I've done this on a rocker shafts hold down bolt with no problems and I did it by hand.
Posted By: GoodysGotaCuda

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By bbtrux
drill and tap for a relatively large bolt (3/8, 7/16), cutoff wheel and smooth off excess bolt , and then drill and tap stock size. Did it once on a rearend yoke on a truck, and got away with it. No problem on a low tension valve cover bolt.


I went this route this morning but went ahead and tapped the new bigger bolt first. 3/8" bolt is jb welded into the new threads, I think it'll hold pretty well for what it needs to do.

Thanks all. up
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By bbtrux
drill and tap for a relatively large bolt (3/8, 7/16), cutoff wheel and smooth off excess bolt , and then drill and tap stock size. Did it once on a rearend yoke on a truck, and got away with it. No problem on a low tension valve cover bolt.


Genius, I have never even thought of that. I will have to remember it.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 05:38 PM

Me too!
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 06:19 PM

I got a set of J heads where one of the exhaust hole holes is similarly messed up, this will fix it
Posted By: BDW

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 09:17 PM

So your drilling the stud? What keeps that in place and not spinning?
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By BDW
So your drilling the stud? What keeps that in place and not spinning?


Missed this did you?

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3/8" bolt is jb welded into the new threads
Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/22/18 09:47 PM

This works for antique furniture with worn out holes for caster wheels too.

Over drill the hole, apply glue to a dowel of the same species, tap in, trim flat.

When the glue is try you can re-drill the correct size hole for the caster wheel.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/24/18 10:26 PM

Originally Posted By BDW
So your drilling the stud? What keeps that in place and not spinning?


It should stay in place because the drill bit is spinning the same direction the bolt was threaded in. Same rule applies when tapping the new hole .
Posted By: krautrock

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/24/18 10:51 PM

Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
This works for antique furniture with worn out holes for caster wheels too.

Over drill the hole, apply glue to a dowel of the same species, tap in, trim flat.

When the glue is try you can re-drill the correct size hole for the caster wheel.


i've also done the exact same process with a hardwood dowel rod in the maple neck on my bass guitar...40yrs of people pulling the neck off for various reasons..
Posted By: Guitar Jones

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/24/18 11:03 PM

Originally Posted By krautrock
Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
This works for antique furniture with worn out holes for caster wheels too.

Over drill the hole, apply glue to a dowel of the same species, tap in, trim flat.

When the glue is try you can re-drill the correct size hole for the caster wheel.


i've also done the exact same process with a hardwood dowel rod in the maple neck on my bass guitar...40yrs of people pulling the neck off for various reasons..


Wood glue and tooth picks work for that and it's a lot easier.
Posted By: krautrock

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/24/18 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By Guitar Jones
Originally Posted By krautrock
Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
This works for antique furniture with worn out holes for caster wheels too.

Over drill the hole, apply glue to a dowel of the same species, tap in, trim flat.

When the glue is try you can re-drill the correct size hole for the caster wheel.


i've also done the exact same process with a hardwood dowel rod in the maple neck on my bass guitar...40yrs of people pulling the neck off for various reasons..


Wood glue and tooth picks work for that and it's a lot easier.


i did that once or twice and it didn't last, ended up just doing it better to be done with it. a maple dowel and then redrill the hole and bolt the neck back on nice and tight.
Posted By: moper

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/25/18 02:29 AM

Originally Posted By Supercuda
Originally Posted By bbtrux
drill and tap for a relatively large bolt (3/8, 7/16), cutoff wheel and smooth off excess bolt , and then drill and tap stock size. Did it once on a rearend yoke on a truck, and got away with it. No problem on a low tension valve cover bolt.


Genius, I have never even thought of that. I will have to remember it.


X2!
Posted By: GODSCOUNTRY340

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/25/18 03:25 PM

This may be a lost art these days but I'd put a stud in there and braze it in place (brass rod). Cast iron is easy to braze and it will also repair that crack coming from the hole. Let it cool on it's own after brazing, don't cool it with water.
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: Boogered up LA valve cover bolt hole - Suggestions? - 07/26/18 01:00 AM

Clean cast iron is easy to braze, getting it clean is another story. But goos idea
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