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Air checking 904 question

Posted By: J. Hammer

Air checking 904 question - 02/18/18 11:34 PM

I'm building a 904 and may have a problem during air checking the clutches. The direct seems fine,engages firmly and no air escaping. The rear clutch is a different story. The clutch engages but air escapes from the port next to the port that I apply air pressure, this is the port that goes to the converter? Anyone run into this?
Posted By: BLACKHEMIRR

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/19/18 12:53 AM

Sounds like you might have a broken sealing ring on the input shaft, and have air leaking into the pump housing.
Posted By: J. Hammer

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/19/18 05:17 AM

I wish it was that simple. The rings look fine but I have swapped to the old ones with no change.
Posted By: dvw

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/19/18 02:06 PM

Teflon or steel rings? Do they have grease/assy lube on them? How is inside surface where they seal against?
Doug
Posted By: J. Hammer

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/20/18 05:45 AM

The rings are metal and well lubed. The drum had a small amount of wear,I gently cleaned it up with 400 grit.
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/20/18 06:17 AM

Are the pump parts and input shaft original to that trans?
Posted By: J. Hammer

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/20/18 06:23 AM

The original pump was replaced with a transtar rebuilt pump. Input shaft,drums are original to the trans.
Posted By: BLACKHEMIRR

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/20/18 11:23 AM

You might have to disassemble the pump and make sure there's nothing going on where the clutch hub contacts the pump body. I think that is just a metal to metal seal, correct? Maybe there is a crack or piece of debris in that area.
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/22/18 12:02 AM


There was a change in the support and rings, might have a mismatch of parts.
Posted By: J. Hammer

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/25/18 12:50 AM

I swapped the single ring on the input shaft to a teflon ring from the small end of an accumulator piston and no air leakage can be heard. There is a tan plastic ring that has flat cut ends that seems to work as well. What ring would be the correct choice in that location? Thanks for the help.
Posted By: A727Tflite

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/25/18 03:28 AM

Square cut seals (usually "plastic") should have the ends butted when placed in their respective bore.

The metal variety with locking ends should have a gap between the locking tabs when placed in their bores.
Posted By: J. Hammer

Re: Air checking 904 question - 02/25/18 11:29 PM

Thanks, I knew that but I don't do many trans builds so it never hurts to give me a reminder.
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