Posted By: BcudaChris
Steering Gear - 08/22/17 11:32 PM
Will someone from the Mopar Knowledge Base enlighten me as to whether or not I can order up a reman police steering box for an 89 Gran Fury and bolt it into my 73 Barracuda?
If so, are there any caveats with the hose fittings or anything I need to look out for?
Thanks in Adv
Chris
Posted By: burdar
Re: Steering Gear - 08/23/17 03:40 PM
The reman parts store units are a crap shoot as to quality. They only thing they do is clean them up and install new seals. The box itself could be worn out. Is there a reason why you don't want to get a completely rebuilt box from Firm Feel or Steer and Gear?
Firm Feel offers three different stages of "firmness".
Posted By: Montclaire
Re: Steering Gear - 08/23/17 03:44 PM
1973 should have the larger shaft, and I know Eberg used to use the dippy cop boxes so I think you should be ok. Why a box for an 89 Fury? The remans won't be 'select fit' and the factory ran out of NOS cop boxes a long time ago.
Posted By: Montclaire
Re: Steering Gear - 08/23/17 03:47 PM
Also, speaking from experience, I didn't notice any real difference going from a used, stock 73 box (about 50k original miles) to a "Level 2" box. I did upgrade to the fast ratio pitman so it was necessary to get the stops where I wanted them but next time around I'll be going with a basic reman box.
Posted By: Andrewh
Re: Steering Gear - 08/23/17 06:27 PM
Advanced auto carries them from a specific rebuilder. Don't remember their name.
Better than average on rebuilding.
Anyway, I had to take parts like the hose fitting pieces off my old box.
It came with new seals, o ring and copper crush washer.
Posted By: BcudaChris
Re: Steering Gear - 08/23/17 07:01 PM
The reman parts store units are a crap shoot as to quality. They only thing they do is clean them up and install new seals. The box itself could be worn out. Is there a reason why you don't want to get a completely rebuilt box from Firm Feel or Steer and Gear?
Firm Feel offers three different stages of "firmness".
Cost.... The reason I'm looking for alternatives to FF/Steer n gear.
As to why the Gran Fury box, just going through Rock Auto I know and Diplomats/Gran Fury's came with the cop box.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=31202&cc=1236989&jsn=396I'll get a look at the AutoZone boxes.
Posted By: dogdays
Re: Steering Gear - 08/23/17 08:25 PM
Well, I learned something today. There is an A-1 Cardone steering box with part number 276515 that appears to actually be the police box. It lists a 3.5 turns lock-to-lock and the others are 4 turns. P/N 276515 !?! Hefty core charge of $100. Plus E-berg says to stay away from remanufactured parts store boxes.
Here's an NOS box:
http://www.2040-parts.com/nos-firm-feel-...6-440-i1111837/Then Firm Feel or Steer N Gear.
Makes that tubular K-frame with rack and pinion look better, doesn't it?
R.
Posted By: burdar
Re: Steering Gear - 08/23/17 08:38 PM
Cost.... The reason I'm looking for alternatives to FF/Steer n gear.
If cost is a big concern and your existing box still "feels" fine, you can just buy the seals and install them yourself. That would be your cheapest option. Personally, I'd be worried about a parts store replacement box being worse then the one I was removing.
Posted By: BDW
Re: Steering Gear - 08/24/17 12:37 AM
I got a "cop box" from Advanced Auto about 15yrs ago and it was a huge improvement.'
Nice thing about Advanced Auto is the parts have a lifetime warranty.
I really question whether these "speciality" builders are really worth the 3x cost difference.
Posted By: BcudaChris
Re: Steering Gear - 08/24/17 12:50 AM
That Cardone part is the one I have in mind.
Unfortunately, my existing box has a much larger than usual dead spot and I over tightened the worm gear when I was young and dumb.
I've actually had really good luck with Cardone over the years, steering racks, brake calipers, etc on a lot of different cars. I don't think I've ever taken anything back of theirs. I did have one Jeep GC front drive line that was dirty as heck and had a coat of paint over the dirt, but it worked just fine.
Posted By: Montclaire
Re: Steering Gear - 08/24/17 01:36 AM
You will not get a "cop box" back from a rebuilder.