Production Numbers by Hi-Impact colors

This question may possibly be answered only by Galen Govier himself but perhaps some of you have this answer which I am quite eager to know.

What percentage of all Roadrunners sold in 1971 came with the color GY3 Curious Yellow? If you can't give me Roadrunners then the whole Satellite line. Thanks

Would like to know if the numbers are significantly low and also if there is a website link anywhere to check production numbers against color (regular or hi-impact.

Thanks

'71 GTX...

181 sprayed GY-3 OEM(6.7%)...

7th most popular color...


GY-3 came in at 1.9 percent of total '71 Satellite production...

If you've got numbers for GTX, surely someone can come up with Roadrunner. 7th seems to be somewhere in the middle of the field. How many colours were there for the Satellite line in '71?

I show 21 color choices for the Satellite line in '71...

Ok so how close to the bottom is the 1.9%?

Just trying to learn how rare this colour really is when it comes to the Satellites.

GY-3 is pretty rare...

Out of 21, I show 5 colors coming in at less than 1.9 percent of total production...

Hey, that's pretty cool.

Just for the sake of curiosity what's the rarest colour for the Satellite family?

GY-4...

'Honeydew'...


Appears to be a '72 color...


So, I suspect it was sprayed on late cars...

That is interesting. I don't think I've ever seen any 1971 GY4 Honeydew GTXs or Roadrunners for that matter.

Still looking for the Roadrunner numbers as it relates to GY3 curious Yellow, though.

GG? OMG you must be new here.

To answer your original question is 7.2% for Road Runner and 6.7% for GTX.

That makes it fairly common.

Thanks for the 7.2% of all Roadrunners answer. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Since RS23U1G has already suggested there are 21 colours for the 71 Satellite family, any percentage higher than 4.76% would be considered fairly common. So I'd agree.

Still a great color. I only have a breakdown of High Impacts.

For 71 RR:

EV2 -12.2%
GY3 - 7.2%
EL5 - 6.4%
FJ6 - 5.5%
FC7 - 4.9%
FY1 - 0.9%

Scrolling down I noticed that FY1 came in as the rarest colour for Roadrunners at .9%. Believe it is called Lemon Twist yellow. That's the colour that I had my car painted in '87 when I gave the paint shop the wrong code. I was 27 years old at the time and knew nothing about Mopars. I'm 59 now and looking back, now I can see why, to a small degree, there was so much interest in my car at local shows. FY1 is considered rare for Roadrunners. Interesting.

One of 35 in FY-1...

A stunning beauty to be sure. I believe however, that is a GTX. That is one gorgeous hunk of screaming metal! Lou

It is...

And it's a dandy...

440+6...

The reason FY1 production was so low in 71 was due to the fact that it was
not listed as an available color at the beginning of production . It wasn't in the color sample brochures etc in August . I don't have my TSBs in front of me , but at some point another color was dropped and FY1 added , they only ran 18 colors at any given time .

Greg

I don't agree that they only ran 18 colors at any given time. in 1970 there were 20 colors available when they added FM3 and FJ6. Barry's site shows the Trim Selector with 19 Satellite colors and that was before they added GY4.

As for FY1, I don't have the Plymouth PIB handy, but the Dodge one shows that they added FY1 in mid-September. I would think that would likely apply for Plymouth too.

GY4 started out as a C-body color. It was added to the B-Body line in Mid-March I believe.

I'd like to see any documentation on that, too...


That color had a good, long run...

Why would it be interrupted???

Looks like the announcement for Plymouth was 8/21/70 for the return of Lemon twist. All the color brochures etc. for the beginning of the model were printed without showing FY1 , so people were pretty much unaware it could be ordered unless the dealer told them specifically .
I had always thought they dropped GB7 when they added FY1 back in ,
but it looks like GB7 was dropped on 11/9/70.
And since it was mentioned above ..GY4 Honey Dew was added on 3/16/71 .

Greg

In my paperwork from Galen, I show 2.4% for Plymouth B-bodies.

Where are you guys finding these numbers? I have a 70 Coronet R/T FC7. And would love to get this info.

Thanks for the posts you guys provided. I now have a new found appreciation by the numbers for GY3 and for FY1. I'm grateful for the statistics.

Some of this stuff has been floating around for years, but generally you have to buy it from Galen Govier. His stuff covers all available options for US-spec cars, so if you have a Canadian or Export car, it would not be included in the tallies.

Anyway, FC7 was a popular color for the R/T hardtop: 213 built for the US. EF8 and EB5 are similarly popular, with FK5 being the most popular.

FC7 was the second most popular '70 Coronet R/T color behind FK5

~213 of the 2,155 US spec. '70 Coronet R/Ts were "plum crazy" (9.9%)

True - the number is approximate, give or take.

GB2 seems to be rare color on 71 Plymouths as well.

Never seen a RR in that color! And I prefer it over EB3.

But what may be rare for a RR may be much more popular for non-performance cars.

That's another dandy...

Glacial Blue...


(Next one up in rarity from Lemon Twist in the '71 GTX world(65)...

This car is on e-bay for auction now....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Plymouth-Road-Runner-/252735962517

My brother had a HEMI RR 4 speed in that color. It's currently owned by ogopogo

High Impact Paint (HIP) was a $15.05 option. Their names were as colorful as the paints

Finally, as an after-thought, I dug up a list of the 9 paint names that were "allegedly" rejected by Chrysler executives. These are legendary or maybe infamous:

Catch me Copper
Unforeseeable Fuchsia
Statutory Grape
Gang Green
Well Read
Cost of Living Rose
Fisher Body Rust
Hi-Ho Silver
Frank Loyd White

cheers!

(FC-7 north of the border is called 'ultra-violet'...

Should Hemi Orange be on that paint page ?

Hemi Orange is Dodge's name, Tor Red is Plymouth's.

what would be considered the rarest color for a 71 b ?
L1 i'm guessing???? ?
a8 and i couple of others i have never seen before either..

V-2...

Rarest I have is Y-4...

.4%...


But, that's 'official'...

When you talk about 999, who knows???


(There is ONE known '71 Charger in FM-3...

Ahhh, you learn something every day, always told people that my 71 Barra was Hemi Orange but it is Tor Red.
Thank you for the heads up

"Inviolet" would be Plymouth's version of Dodge's Plum Crazy. I don't think it is a border thing.

Names From Big Brother and The Great White North. Some of the Canadian names for the HIP colors were different from their U.S. counterparts. For example, the code FC7 was Ultra Violet for Canada. FJ5 was dubbed Lime Green. Additionally, some also received corporate names such as code FJ6 was named Brite Yellow Green, FM3-Penta-Magenta, Ceramic Red, Purple Metallic for EV7, and Super Yellow for FY1, which was both a Canadian name and a corporate name.

Weird, I have Canadian and US versions of the '70 Challenger brochures and I never noticed any differences.

I live in the Great White North and everyone here that I know refers to FC7 as either In Violet or Plum Crazy. No one here calls FY1 Lemon Twist "Super Yellow" Same goes for FJ5 and the rest of the colours mentioned in the quote. They are all referred to the same way as the Americans. The odd time you might here somebody call FC7 as Plum Crazy Purple instead of Plum Crazy. This is just a common mistake for everyone and I disregard it. This may be a prime example of fake news. Just because it is written down somewhere doesn't mean it is true.

You can believe what you want...

Got some friends deep into Mopars up there that I have known for many years...

One who has had an FC-7 '71 GTX since '72...

They agree with the above info...


Personally, I don't deal with info that was 'written down somewhere'...

True - we live in an age where "facts" don't need to be backed up.

However, a little diligence will show you are right about the colors in Canada.



I'd be interested in finding a dealer book to see if the naming was consistent to this brochure, or if it was reflective of the names in the U.S.

I have a dealer book from a Canadian dealership such as yours above but for the Satellite models. I'll take a pic of the paint chip chart on the back of the brochure and post to this topic for all to see. I can vouch for the fact that nobody here in the NCA calls Plum Crazy "Ultra-Violet". By here, I mean the NCA National Capital Area. Thanks.

It seems for 1971 they went back to "normal," but look at this Plymouth brochure:



Seems they're using some Dodge names for a Plymouth!

I bet it was a lack of marketing quality control rather than truly having special names for the Canadian market, but who knows?

also, current "jargon" has been influences by decades of musclecar collector books/magazines that have been entirely based on US print info

the CANADA spec. info is so RARE - "WE" collectively have little to ZERO info on CANADA pricing - ever seen an original CANADA dealer destination window sticker or price guide?

"PLUM CRAZY PURPLE" PCP is the official name for the current/modern Chargers/Challengers

My so called Canadian dealership book has turned out to be American. But you may or may not find a thing or two that is odd ball about this,

Also dealer for Renault and Peugot. A 1968 Reneault 8 was my first car. It was also the crappiest I have ever rode in.

The front cover

also GMC trucks and buses. Good old Mt. Holly did it all.

Yep, all the high impact colours are wrong except for Tor-red. Don't know about the others. They look ok to me.

My wife's 2013 Challenger R/T Classic color is Plum Crazy Pearl Coat.

I would like to see a return to all the crazy descriptors they had for the paint colours back in the late 60s and early 70s. Especially the rejected descriptors that I mentioned in a previous post. I reckon what may not be acceptable for 70's society may very well be acceptable now( and even considered tame) by 2017 society.

http://www.allpar.com/cars/production/plymouth-canada.html

The above is for Plymouths produced in Canada all years.

I thought that this was an interesting read. There is probably a similar article on the same web site for Dodge production in Canada....all years. There are some years where there is sketchy information like after 67 and before 75. It's well known that Chrysler Canada made some terrible decisions in the 60's.