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Disc brakes on Duster 340's

Posted By: RAII4-speed

Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 03:29 PM

I am trying to find out if disc brakes were standard equipment on Duster 340's for the years 1970,1971,1972 And 1973.
I have come up with conflicting answers from the Internet.
Of coarse, original window stickers and Factory info would help.


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Posted By: Three40

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 03:51 PM

Hey RAII4_speed, The 1970 Duster 340 came standard with the 4 piston caliper Kelsey Hayes disc brakes as standard equipment.The power assist was an option. 71 and 72 drum brakes were standard and power assist was again an option as well as disc brakes were now an option. the 1973 Duster 340 came standard with disc brakes.This year (1973) it also became the 4.5 inch bolt pattern wheel instead of the 4.00 inch bolt pattern wheel like the 70,71 and 72 used.Hope this helps you out.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 04:03 PM

Three40 .... That does help but still conflics with my findings.
Check out this original window sticker I found on E Bay, it says differently...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-DUSTER-340-3-SPEED-GY8-V6X-BUILD-SHEET-BROADCAST-OEM-WITH-DOOR-STICKER


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Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 04:08 PM

Also, My findings say that 1973 Duster 340's came standard with POWER disc brakes ...very confusing...


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Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 04:10 PM

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Attached picture Bob_K_73Duster1_Sticker.jpg
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 04:14 PM

1972 window sticker .....

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Attached picture 1972windowebay.jpg
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 06:46 PM

Let see, your asking about this on this forum on the internet, why work
Posted By: Three40

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 07:48 PM

Hey RAII4-speed, You are correct on the 73s. I own a 73 Dart Sport 340 and it came standard with power disc brakes and is also listed in the literature for the 73 that power disc brakes were standard on the 340 car.The 72s have me perplexed as I owned a 72 Demon 340 and it was a manual drum brake car. I have also looked at other 72s that had manual drum brakes and were legit 340 cars.On ebay right now there is a HB1 Blue 72 Demon 340 a factory 340 3 speed stick car and it has manual drum brakes on it. Dont know if maybe it depends on when they were built? I also parted a 72 340 Duster that was rusted completely out and it to had manual drum brakes on it.
Posted By: B5 Bee

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:04 PM

I had 2 '72 340 Dusters, both had drum.

The '72 window sticker has a high serial number.
It's possible (pure speculation) that late in the '72 production run there were more disc spindles in stock than drum. Maybe Chrysler was trying to use up the extra disc spindles by making them std on the late production '72 340 models. Both spindles were not needed for '73 production as the drum and disc spindles were different along with the upper A-arm.

edit;
RAII, you not doing yourself any favors with your sig line.
Posted By: formula_s

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:14 PM

Why the hardon for Barry?
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Let see, your asking about this on this forum on the internet, why work


Just trying to get the correct answers ... That simple.


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By formula_s
Why the hardon for Barry?



I would never dishonor him on a public forum .... I also do not want his opinion ..... If you must know, PM me...


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By B5 Bee
I had 2 '72 340 Dusters, both had drum.

The '72 window sticker has a high serial number.
It's possible (pure speculation) that late in the '72 production run there were more disc spindles in stock than drum. Maybe Chrysler was trying to use up the extra disc spindles by making them std on the late production '72 340 models. Both spindles were not needed for '73 production as the drum and disc spindles were different along with the upper A-arm.

edit;
RAII, you not doing yourself any favors with your sig line.


I am looking for concrete answers .... As far as my sig line , PM me I will explain....

Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:40 PM

Post all you want anywhere you want. What Bee said, Ma was known for using up stocks of what was on hand as it is about efficiency/making a profit/keeping the lines moving/maximum output & that is all good.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:40 PM

OK so here are 2 window stickers from 1972 Dusters .. One says Power disc and the other does not list disc at all as standard equipment .... THREE40, I also thought the same as you in your fist post and now I too am confused as to 1972's.

Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

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Attached picture 1972WS.jpg
Attached picture 1972windowebay.jpg
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:43 PM

the 1972 dealer code book shows power brakes & disc brakes to be OPTIONAL on Duster 340
scope but, it must have been confusing enough for someone to write "optional" on the copy I have

I have a b'cast sheet for a 11/24/71 - SPD, US spec. HAMTRAMCK Duster 340 - it is coded "B11" - drum brakes

here's a copy of a window sticker for a 12/12/71 - SPD, US spec. HAMTRAMCK Duster 340 - it states "power disc brakes" - STANDARD

IMO questions were probably raised why the disc brakes were no longer STANDARD & a change was made during the 1972 Duster 340 model year shruggy late-November or early-December (based on the few pieces of info in this thread)

Attached picture 1972 duster VS29-A.JPG
Attached picture 1972 duster brakes-A.JPG
Attached picture 340Duster-ws2.jpg
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By RAII4-speed
OK so here are 2 window stickers from 1972 Dusters ..


the first window sticker is a reproduction with errors spank part of the "problem" adding to the confusion
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By 6bblgt
the 1972 dealer code book shows power brakes & disc brakes to be OPTIONAL on Duster 340
scope but, it must have been confusing enough for someone to write "optional" on the copy I have

I have a b'cast sheet for a 11/24/71 - SPD, US spec. HAMTRAMCK Duster 340 - it is coded "B11" - drum brakes

here's a copy of a window sticker for a 12/12/71 - SPD, US spec. HAMTRAMCK Duster 340 - it states "power disc brakes" - STANDARD

IMO questions were probably raised why the disc brakes were no longer STANDARD & a change was made during the 1972 Duster 340 model year shruggy late-November or early-December (based on the few pieces of info in this thread


THANK YOU 6BBLGT .... I had assumed exactly what you have shown but I was looking for a explanation .... SO, It now seems that a 1972 Duster could have come WITH or WITHOUT disc brakes as Standard equipment...


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By 6bblgt
Originally Posted By RAII4-speed
OK so here are 2 window stickers from 1972 Dusters ..


the first window sticker is a reproduction with errors spank part of the "problem" adding to the confusion


AND I found that on this Site ....


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: branded

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 09:05 PM

Here's the dealer info for a '72...

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...nt_Duster_2.jpg
Posted By: B5 Bee

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By RAII4-speed
Originally Posted By B5 Bee
I had 2 '72 340 Dusters, both had drum.

The '72 window sticker has a high serial number.
It's possible (pure speculation) that late in the '72 production run there were more disc spindles in stock than drum. Maybe Chrysler was trying to use up the extra disc spindles by making them std on the late production '72 340 models. Both spindles were not needed for '73 production as the drum and disc spindles were different along with the upper A-arm.

edit;
RAII, you not doing yourself any favors with your sig line.


I am looking for concrete answers .... As far as my sig line , PM me I will explain....

Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.


Well, it is concrete that some '72 340 Dusters came std with drums. My first '72 had drums and I bought it new.

BTW, just because something is std doesn't mean it can't be deleted.
A cigar lighter was std but could be deleted. The window sticker on my car showed a $4.00 credit for the delete.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:27 PM

Thanks branded for the link .... I still seems that at one point in 1972 disc brakes were standard then at another point in 1972 they were optional....


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:31 PM

Originally Posted By B5 Bee
Originally Posted By RAII4-speed
Originally Posted By B5 Bee
I had 2 '72 340 Dusters, both had drum.

The '72 window sticker has a high serial number.
It's possible (pure speculation) that late in the '72 production run there were more disc spindles in stock than drum. Maybe Chrysler was trying to use up the extra disc spindles by making them std on the late production '72 340 models. Both spindles were not needed for '73 production as the drum and disc spindles were different along with the upper A-arm.

edit;
RAII, you not doing yourself any favors with your sig line.


I am looking for concrete answers .... As far as my sig line , PM me I will explain....

Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.


Well, it is concrete that some '72 340 Dusters came std with drums. My first '72 had drums and I bought it new.

BTW, just because something is std doesn't mean it can't be deleted.
A cigar lighter was std but could be deleted. The window sticker on my car showed a $4.00 credit for the delete.


Yes Bee it seems that some 1972's had Disc brakes as an option and some did not .... I also own a 1971 Duster 340 with non power drum brakes and for years I thought that if it was a Factory 340 car that it had to have disc (power or not) It is now evident that is not the case ....

Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

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Posted By: OzHemi

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By branded


The OP doesn't want Barry's help for some reason, so don't link to Barry's site to try and help him out.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:42 PM

Here are a few pictures of my 1971 with NON power DRUM brakes ...


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Attached picture 1972 (640x360).jpg
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Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:45 PM

Originally Posted By OzHemi
Originally Posted By branded


The OP doesn't want Barry's help for some reason, so don't link to Barry's site to try and help him out.


The link is fine by me .... It is his personal opinion and remarks I do not want on my post.


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By OzHemi
Originally Posted By branded


The OP doesn't want Barry's help for some reason, so don't link to Barry's site to try and help him out.


the OP was looking for HELP help even specifically asked Barry for it in another post, then fan
Posted By: UCUDANT

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:49 PM

Originally Posted By RAII4-speed
Thanks branded for the link .... I still seems that at one point in 1972 disc brakes were standard then at another point in 1972 they were optional....


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.



The www.hamtramck-historical.com is maintained by Mr Barry Washington isn't it? You might not want to use it.... just saying
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:53 PM

Originally Posted By UCUDANT
Originally Posted By RAII4-speed
Thanks branded for the link .... I still seems that at one point in 1972 disc brakes were standard then at another point in 1972 they were optional....


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.



The www.hamtramck-historical.com is maintained by Mr Barry Washington isn't it? You might not want to use it.... just saying


What seems to be on that site is Factual .... It is his remarks and thoughts that are not welcome.

Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:57 PM

You don't deserve his information.
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 10:57 PM

I have NEVER seen anyone have a bad word to say about Barry, he is an asset here...

The only time people seem to get upset is if they are trying to pull something and Barry calls them out. Not saying this is the case here, but that is the only time I have seen anything similar at least over many years.
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 11:00 PM

Originally Posted By RAII4-speed


What seems to be on that site is Factual ....



"Seems" factual ? Of course it is factual. (We are talking scanned original documents here) As said, you don't deserve his help or the information he has amassed.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 11:11 PM

RAII4---contact Galen Govier, he'll have the info you're looking for.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/12/16 11:16 PM

Can we stay on track here ... My post was about Dusters with Disc brakes ....


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: UCUDANT

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/13/16 12:52 AM

Barry is a respected board member and contributor to the hobby. You could simply address him directly via PM but your every post mentions him. So they are technically responding to your postings, just not your question.

This seems to be because in a previous post Barry made mention that he would not assist folks make a fake window sticker.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/13/16 01:28 AM

I did PM Barry and we did E mail each other ... That is between us .... Let it be .. I am ... If you must know, PM me smile

Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.

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Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/13/16 01:38 AM

I had a '72 Demon 340. It had 10" manual drum brakes. It was a pretty bare bones car, column shift auto, bench seat and rallye wheels were about it.
Posted By: RAII4-speed

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/13/16 01:48 AM

Originally Posted By slantzilla
I had a '72 Demon 340. It had 10" manual drum brakes. It was a pretty bare bones car, column shift auto, bench seat and rallye wheels were about it.


slantzilla, You actually bring up a good point, I wonder if Dodge and Plymouth were the same as far as Standard equipment goes.


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Posted By: skicker

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/13/16 02:29 AM

I've not got a dog in this fight but dude change your sig...
Hel! put my name in for all I care...Its 3 steps below childish... twocents
Posted By: not_a_charger

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/13/16 12:34 PM

It's not his signature. He's actually typing that on every post he makes.

Quote:
That is between us


Please use the ignore feature and block Barry if you don't want to see what he posts. If you keep trying to be confrontational like this, I'll give you some time off from posting, because what you are doing is not "between us," with regard to you and Barry. I'd normally address this via PM, but since you have chosen to make a public spectacle of the issue on 2 occasions now (the first being your hijacking of someone else's thread), I figured that replying in public was appropriate.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/14/16 04:43 PM

Originally Posted By RAII4-speed


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Seriously ?? This makes you sound like a 12 yr old? bawling

Do you think that is going to stop him, or anyone else, from replying to a post ?
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/14/16 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By JohnRR
Originally Posted By RAII4-speed


Barry Washington --- Your thoughts and remarks are not welcome on my posts.



Seriously ?? This makes you sound like a 12 yr old? bawling

Do you think that is going to stop him, or anyone else, from replying to a post ?

Really? and not a person on here wonders what BW said to RALL 4speed to make him post that remark? Quite a few of these paper chasers are the arrogant type.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/14/16 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By cudaman1969

Really? and not a person on here wonders what BW said to RALL 4speed to make him post that remark? Quite a few of these paper chasers are the arrogant type.


It's not limited to paper chasers wink
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Disc brakes on Duster 340's - 11/15/16 12:13 AM

Originally Posted By JohnRR
Originally Posted By cudaman1969

Really? and not a person on here wonders what BW said to RALL 4speed to make him post that remark? Quite a few of these paper chasers are the arrogant type.


It's not limited to paper chasers wink

Definitely not
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