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Radiator shop epoxy repair?

Posted By: pinkduster

Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/10/16 12:56 AM

When a radiator shop repairs an aluminum radiator with epoxy, what product are they using? Thoughts?
Posted By: jcc

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/10/16 01:22 AM

Good question. I actually never heard of that type of repair. I have read rad manufacturers use epoxy, but it was not supposed to be a primary structural component, if I can believe what they shared. I spoke with a niche high performance epoxy manufacturer, and gave them my parameters for a solution on a radiator, <30psi pressure, <250F, and water/glycol long term exposure, constant pressure cycling. They were most concerned with the water/glycol exposure long term, seeping into the carbon fiber filament, which is not the case for a typical rad solution issue. Never got an answer that would not require testing, and that was beyond what I wanted to invest. Lets us know what you discover.
Posted By: ahy

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/10/16 01:09 PM

I have used JB weld for repair of copper/brass radiator tanks. It worked fine for short term repair... then I replaced the radiator. For aluminum I would try JB Aluminum weld based on the idea expansion with heat would be more similar to the radiator.
Posted By: bonefish

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/10/16 01:54 PM

i repaired many motor cycle gas tanks with JB never a prob with longevity.my curent rad in my daily driver is repaired with JB,going on 15 years no leaks.SURFACE PREP.
Posted By: p d'ro

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/10/16 10:16 PM

My stock radiator on the 67 RT is dripping a tiny bit at a seam at the top of the tank and no one in DC metro repairs radiators. I was going to sand off the paint and try to solder. Would JB weld be a better option?
Posted By: ahy

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/10/16 11:40 PM

Per my experience JB sticks well to copper/brass... but not sure about lead. It may not stick so well to the solder already there.

You could try the JB... or re-solder. Either way it would be good to have a "plan B": send the radiator out to a specialist like Glen Ray or replace it.
Posted By: MoparMike1974

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/11/16 02:17 PM

Most epoxy will become soft when it gets hot. Although, I have used JB Weld on radiators with success. I would stick with JB Weld or Marine Tex. Any high quality epoxy should work. I use west system epoxy mixed with aluminum powder as a substitute for JB Weld. I try to stay away from the 5 minute epoxys too as they dont seem to get as hard as a slow cure epoxy.
Posted By: moparx

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/11/16 02:38 PM

i was at the local ace hardware recently, and i think i saw some high temp JB. i could be wrong [wouldn't be the first time, and certainly NOT the last .]
beer
Posted By: bonefish

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/12/16 12:47 PM

Originally Posted By moparx
i was at the local ace hardware recently, and i think i saw some high temp JB. i could be wrong [wouldn't be the first time, and certainly NOT the last .]
beer
I think i saw that too.but mabey not ,i could of though. shruggy
Posted By: Paul_Fancsali

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/12/16 09:03 PM

JB it with clean prep and no coolant for at least 24 hours and don't do it outside with temps below 60
Posted By: minivan

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/12/16 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By p d'ro
My stock radiator on the 67 RT is dripping a tiny bit at a seam at the top of the tank and no one in DC metro repairs radiators.


Whats the world coming to.... LOL

That is sad though, no joke..
Posted By: dogdays

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/13/16 02:19 AM

That's why God gave us Stop Leak.

But.....

If it's the seam between the top tank and the core this may be a clue that your core is partially plugged. I had it happen once, it just kept opening up little by little. About 2/3 of the tubes were plugged (probably from Stop Leak!).

I guess I'm saying the epoxy might solve the symptom but not cure the disease. Solder would be my choice for a leaking seam.

R.
Posted By: Bull1tt

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/13/16 03:46 AM

I wouldn't trust epoxy on a radiator, just solder it. It's not that dificult..
Posted By: PurpleBeeper

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/13/16 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By Paul_Fancsali
JB it with clean prep and no coolant for at least 24 hours and don't do it outside with temps below 60


Paul is correct. I have repaired radiators both ways (solder & epoxy) and both work.
1. all epoxies will chemically resist antifreeze.
2. all epoxies will be OK with roughly 300F continuous temperature.
3. Slow cure epoxies are stronger, stick better & have better chemical resistance than 5-min. epoxies.
4. all epoxies stick very well to all metals that have proper SURFACE PREPARATION as another poster mentioned... including lead. For plastic, you need a 5-min.type epoxy designed for plastic (mercaptan based pt. B)
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Radiator shop epoxy repair? - 10/13/16 11:31 PM

I JB Welded a fitting that I accidentally tore off. Never had a problem. You could clean it and solder it like you're supposed to.
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