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Changing a 70 challenger to a 71

Posted By: varunner

Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 01:09 AM

Just trying to put a price on this. What's a grill go for, is it reproduced ? Does the tail panel need to be changed to accept new tail-lights ?

thanks
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 02:33 AM

The tail panel does not need to be changed.

How correct do you want to get because there are a ton of things that are different?
Posted By: varunner

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 03:03 AM

Correct from about ten feet away. I'm building a car for stock eliminator, engine specs seem to be much better for the 71. Don't really want to do this, but I'm considering it. Car is painted and pretty much ready for a motor. 383 magnum
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 06:11 AM

put a grille, rear tail panel, change the dash pad and seats,outside mirrors, along with the proper placement of emblems/decals/etc and your good to go for your 10 footer
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 06:22 AM

OK - I'll assume a 71 R/T non shaker

Grill
Headlamp Buckets
Hood - no DODGE letters on the hood in 71
Side scoops
Tail lamps
Tail Finish Panel
Tail Lamp Wiring Harness
The impossible to get 71 DODGE deck lid emblem

You'll need to remove the sheet metal piece that goes between the tail lamps and the rear bumper as 71 does not have that.

That will get you a 10 foot pass
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 06:34 AM

OK - I'll assume a 71 R/T non shaker

Grill
Headlamp Buckets
Hood - no DODGE letters on the hood in 71
Side scoops
Tail lamps
Tail Finish Panel
Tail Lamp Wiring Harness
The impossible to get 71 DODGE deck lid emblem

You'll need to remove the sheet metal piece that goes between the tail lamps and the rear bumper as 71 does not have that.

That will get you a 10 foot pass
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 07:20 AM

Originally Posted By Morty426
OK - I'll assume a 71 R/T non shaker

Grill
Headlamp Buckets
Hood - no DODGE letters on the hood in 71
Side scoops
Tail lamps
Tail Finish Panel
Tail Lamp Wiring Harness
The impossible to get 71 DODGE deck lid emblem

You'll need to remove the sheet metal piece that goes between the tail lamps and the rear bumper as 71 does not have that.

That will get you a 10 foot pass




Forgot about those dastardly R/T side scoop....but again he could build a base Challenger N code and forego the side scoops
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By Morty426
OK - I'll assume a 71 R/T non shaker

Grill
Headlamp Buckets
Hood - no DODGE letters on the hood in 71
Side scoops
Tail lamps
Tail Finish Panel
Tail Lamp Wiring Harness
The impossible to get 71 DODGE deck lid emblem

You'll need to remove the sheet metal piece that goes between the tail lamps and the rear bumper as 71 does not have that.

That will get you a 10 foot pass




Forgot about those dastardly R/T side scoop....but again he could build a base Challenger N code and forego the side scoops


That's true since they only add weight laugh
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 01:00 PM

I didn't cover the interior since at 10 feet you can't see inside but if you cared:

Seat belts
Center Console
Shifter (automatic)
seat backs
seats
dash pad
speaker grills (outer dash)
Radio (in some cases)
Vent knobs
Posted By: BradD

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 02:17 PM

He said it is a Stock Eliminator car! Just change the grille and taillamps. IHRA/NHRA wont care about the seat covers!
Brad
Posted By: BDW

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 04:25 PM

I agree with above, dash change......haha
Posted By: YYZ

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 05:05 PM

Tail panel IS different, but you could hack out the dividers for the '70 lamps so that the '71s would fit. From the outside it would look fine, and if you did it neatly, not too obvious from the inside.

Grille is not reproduced. The two long brackets to the rad support are the same as '70. There are 2 short ones for '71, but they're not crucial. The tabs on the back of the grille for them are often broken/missing anyway.
Posted By: varunner

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 07/30/16 05:37 PM

Probably should have said accurate to 30 ft, not 10. haha. Grill and taillight should be all I would need. Cost is approx. $1200 for those 2 items ???

Anyone have a picture of a 71 tail panel ? If I modify 'he tail panel, would that prevent me from going back to a 70 ?

Here it is. hate to cut on it now.

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Posted By: 71vert340

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 08/01/16 03:14 AM

A picture or two is worth a thousand words. Many pieces required. Once you cut the rear panel to fit the 3 light buckets per side, the only way to go back to the 70 tail lights is a new panel. Take a look.
Terry

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Posted By: Plum440

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 08/01/16 03:21 AM

Why not just sell it and buy a '71? shruggy
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 08/01/16 03:53 AM

Originally Posted By Mopar_Beach
Why not just sell it and buy a '71? shruggy


I'll sell you a 71 non-RT 340 4 speed
Posted By: Car Nut

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 08/01/16 04:00 AM

Originally Posted By Mopar_Beach
Why not just sell it and buy a '71? shruggy


up You'll end up having money left over, 70's are worth more.
Posted By: Morty426

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 08/01/16 04:27 AM

Also if you wait till the end of the week I'll take a picture of a 70 and 71 tail panel for you side by side

Not that I don't know anything about Challengers

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Posted By: fastmark

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 08/01/16 12:47 PM

Well. Many years ago, I was building a 70 Challenger stocker. Long story but I never ended up finishing the car. I was advised to change it to a 71 as well. The grill is no big deal. Just swap it and the latch tray. You have to modify the rear taillight panel pretty severely. Remove a couple of the dividers and patch the one in the middle where the 70 back up light is. The bottom outside corners need to be cut bigger and you drill lots of holes for the panel that surrounds the lights. Send me your email and I'll shoot you some pictures of my panel that is modified. Of coarse by not racing it as a 71 stocker, I wish I had never hacked it up. I bought a tube frame car and raced it at my local track
Posted By: varunner

Re: Changing a 70 challenger to a 71 - 08/01/16 05:10 PM

I appreciate the info and pictures. After thinking about this, I'm not going to change it over. I bought this car as a $2500 rust bucket and have done everything to it except final paint. It's been a insane amount of labor, and I can't hack up the tail panel. I'm not convinced how much more power the 71 engine makes over the 70. The 71 pistons have valve notches and the cam is slightly better. For this project I'm not trying to qualify at the top or anywhere near it anyway.
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