Posted By: gts1
3 speed vs 4 speed spline count - 01/28/09 08:39 PM
Hi Guys
looking to do a 4 speed conversion on a 65 dart It currently has a 3 speed on the column is the spline count on the 3 speed 23 also or will I have to change the clutch also will the 4 speed bolt up to the 3 speed bellhousing Car is a 273 2bbl.
Thanks
Posted By: EWJ
Re: 3 speed vs 4 speed spline count - 01/28/09 09:09 PM
The spline count will be the same (23 spline).
Posted By: In_The_Pink
Re: 3 speed vs 4 speed spline count - 01/28/09 10:04 PM
I'm 99% sure the 3-speed bellhousing will not match the 4-speed's (I'm assuming an A-833 here) bolt pattern. You'll need a SB 4-speed BH.
Posted By: sbhpcb
Re: 3 speed vs 4 speed spline count - 01/28/09 11:50 PM
Check to see if the bellhousing has 2 bolt patterns. I know the 70's bellhousings would work with either 3 or 4 speed
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: 3 speed vs 4 speed spline count - 01/28/09 11:52 PM
Same spline count, same bell housing
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 3 speed vs 4 speed spline count - 01/29/09 12:01 AM
Same spline count, but the '66 Valiant 3-speed column shift trans that I have won't bolt up to the 4-speed '66 833 bell housings I have. It probably will bolt to the later dual pattern bell housing with the 3-speed bolt pattern.
The only reason I have that trans is to pirate the screws out of it.
Posted By: 500ciDuster
Re: 3 speed vs 4 speed spline count - 01/29/09 12:09 AM
In or around those years of 273's I've seen a castiron bell with a 3 speed bolt patern with a smaller 10" cltuth.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: 3 speed vs 4 speed spline count - 01/29/09 01:14 AM
I should have added...."For 70 and up 3 speeds"