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hellcat issues

Posted By: 2JcodeChargers

hellcat issues - 09/26/15 02:21 AM

I know that the Hellcat's are very new, but has anyone heard anything concerning repair issues with these cars, specifically transmission issues? I've been thinking of possibly ordering a '16 Challenger but haven't heard much about them except for the obvious.
Thanks!
Posted By: HotRodDave

Re: hellcat issues - 09/26/15 07:24 PM

Seen a couple pics of twisted driveshafts when running slicks, bout it.
Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: hellcat issues - 09/26/15 08:43 PM

Once they are bought, they seem to never go back to the dealerships again for anything so car sites are the only places you will find out any information. All I have read is that they are going faster and faster all the time and as for twisted driveshafts....sounds like its time for upgrades from Strange or Mark Williams or.....?? Warranty is most likely NOT going to cover a dead drivesaft if the car has been modded....??
Posted By: hudsonhornet7x

Re: hellcat issues - 09/26/15 08:50 PM

The crank dampers are slipping on some. They were not pinned from the factory.

Saw a video on another one that had busted valves, hammered on the pistons, etc. Don't know what happened to that one.
Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: hellcat issues - 09/26/15 08:54 PM

If I can remember, when I get back to work on Monday, I'll check and see if there are any bulletins out on them....
Posted By: 2JcodeChargers

Re: hellcat issues - 09/26/15 09:41 PM

Thanks for checking on the bulletins for me..
Posted By: E-Ticket

Re: hellcat issues - 09/26/15 10:07 PM

Originally Posted By 2JcodeChargers
Thanks for checking on the bulletins for me..


No problem....
Posted By: rickseeman

Re: hellcat issues - 09/28/15 04:00 PM

I think Strange needs to come up with a bolt in S60 and driveshaft package. If you haven't been under a new Challenger the drivetrain looks like it belongs in a Volkswagon.
Posted By: kwhmopar1

Re: hellcat issues - 09/28/15 05:14 PM

Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x
The crank dampers are slipping on some. They were not pinned from the factory.


It happened to mine at 831 miles on the clock. As this thread was going, another member reported it happened to him also. So far not much in the way of trans issues.


http://www.hellcat.org/threads/entire-engine-to-be-replaced-after-831-miles-ugh.9914/
Posted By: feets

Re: hellcat issues - 09/28/15 05:21 PM

Originally Posted By rickseeman
I think Strange needs to come up with a bolt in S60 and driveshaft package. If you haven't been under a new Challenger the drivetrain looks like it belongs in a Volkswagon.



The same differential has been used under the heavier and more powerful S65/CL65/SL65 cars for many years. Granted, they have auto transmissions but if 735 lb/ft in a 4800+ lb car won't break them they stand a good chance in a HC.

Some of those guys have built the cars to crank out more than 900 lb/ft and launch on slicks without lunching the diff.

The driveshaft and axles are not going to last under that abuse but that's kinda expected, don't you think?
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: hellcat issues - 09/28/15 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By kwhmopar1
Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x
The crank dampers are slipping on some. They were not pinned from the factory.


It happened to mine at 831 miles on the clock. As this thread was going, another member reported it happened to him also. So far not much in the way of trans issues.


http://www.hellcat.org/threads/entire-engine-to-be-replaced-after-831-miles-ugh.9914/


So, the question that popped into my mind after reading your link is "how will not having the original engine affect future value"?
Posted By: kwhmopar1

Re: hellcat issues - 09/28/15 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By Supercuda
So, the question that popped into my mind after reading your link is "how will not having the original engine affect future value"?


What choice did or do I have? Many cars back in the hay days had warranty engines. I don't see where these cars will ever have the appeal of the original Hemi cars. I bought it to enjoy. No kids to leave it to. Just glad to get some miles on it before the snow flies.
Posted By: Vert

Re: hellcat issues - 09/28/15 06:06 PM

Slipped dampers toast the engine which get replaced under warranty. I've only heard of two cases. People talk about pinning them. I think thats a bad move as I suspect THAT might void the warranty.
The twisted driveshafts seem to happen with drag radials launched hard on sticky tracks. I think they've all been warranty replaced (meaning MOPAR paid for the Mark Williams unit) as well.
Posted By: kwhmopar1

Re: hellcat issues - 09/28/15 06:27 PM

Service manager at my dealer told me when he notified FCA of my issue, they said it was the 4th one they had reported. When I picked up my car after repair, I talked to their SRT tech because I wanted to see the old engine. He advised against pinning the pulley til after warranty runs out. He said let them pay to replace it if it fails again.
Posted By: HotRodDave

Re: hellcat issues - 09/28/15 09:33 PM

So if the power steering goes away that may explain the guy who crashed his in CO on the way home.
Posted By: feets

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 12:32 AM

Originally Posted By HotRodDave
So if the power steering goes away that may explain the guy who crashed his in CO on the way home.



No.

The guy who crashed the car in CO just screwed up and crashed his car.

There is very little power assist in cars when in motion. It simply isn't needed.
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 12:52 AM

Originally Posted By HotRodDave
So if the power steering goes away that may explain the guy who crashed his in CO on the way home.


The power steering is electric not hydraulic. confused
Posted By: flypaper

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 01:04 AM

the more common issues that i have heard of are
leaking fuel rails that they had a recall for
and exhaust valves that either stick or they come apart
they are a 300 dollar part...
i have not seen anything bad with reguards to the transmissions
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 02:16 AM

Originally Posted By kwhmopar1
Originally Posted By Supercuda
So, the question that popped into my mind after reading your link is "how will not having the original engine affect future value"?


What choice did or do I have? Many cars back in the hay days had warranty engines. I don't see where these cars will ever have the appeal of the original Hemi cars. I bought it to enjoy. No kids to leave it to. Just glad to get some miles on it before the snow flies.


Dunno what choice you have, that wasn't the point of my thought tho. Point was a Hellcat will be/is a collector and you took a potential loss due to this is all.
Posted By: SSAAHemiFan

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 06:32 AM

Originally Posted By kwhmopar1
Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x
The crank dampers are slipping on some. They were not pinned from the factory.


It happened to mine at 831 miles on the clock. As this thread was going, another member reported it happened to him also. So far not much in the way of trans issues.


http://www.hellcat.org/threads/entire-engine-to-be-replaced-after-831-miles-ugh.9914/


I thought they were supposed to have a diamond encrusted crank washer ?

something must be off big time... it sounds like this guy was just driving along, not even beating on it.
Posted By: kwhmopar1

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 10:45 AM

Originally Posted By feets
No.

The guy who crashed the car in CO just screwed up and crashed his car.

There is very little power assist in cars when in motion. It simply isn't needed.


I have to disagree with you. My car had the pulley failure and the steering was tougher that ANY vehicle I have ever driven when the power assist went out. I'm not saying the guy in CO wasn't screwing around, but after experiencing this myself, that is a possibility of why he lost control.

And for the record, the Hellcats do have hydraulic power assist, there is a fluid reservoir. My mom's '11 Charger has electric power steering.
Posted By: rickseeman

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 04:48 PM

The S65 sells for over $200,000. The target market is 75 year olds. They aren't really hard on drivetrains. Have you ever seen an S65 do a burnout? The target market on a hellcat is a guy who is going to run the crap out of that thing. I can't imagine them giving a 100,000 mile warranty on those. I visualize warranty claims in their future.
Posted By: Polarapete

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 09:01 PM

The only Hellcat issue that I have is that I cannot afford one wink
Posted By: feets

Re: hellcat issues - 09/29/15 10:22 PM

Originally Posted By rickseeman
The S65 sells for over $200,000. The target market is 75 year olds. They aren't really hard on drivetrains. Have you ever seen an S65 do a burnout? The target market on a hellcat is a guy who is going to run the crap out of that thing. I can't imagine them giving a 100,000 mile warranty on those. I visualize warranty claims in their future.



You have a long learning curve ahead of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJR46JFyb_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkNaZrWzCdQ

There are tons more out there.
Posted By: rickseeman

Re: hellcat issues - 09/30/15 03:37 AM

Didn't learn anything there. The target audience is what it is. I still feel Hellcats will have driveline warranty claims.
Posted By: feets

Re: hellcat issues - 10/01/15 12:22 AM

Originally Posted By rickseeman
Didn't learn anything there. The target audience is what it is. I still feel Hellcats will have driveline warranty claims.


Yes, they will have drieline warranty issues. However, the differential is not likely to be a common fault. That is significant because of the cost involved.
Posted By: toplescuda

Re: hellcat issues - 10/01/15 03:19 PM

Took pic. When had our cat on lift for oil change/tire rotation
I would of thought the rearend would been more beefier looking lol

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Posted By: toplescuda

Re: hellcat issues - 10/01/15 03:20 PM

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Posted By: feets

Re: hellcat issues - 10/01/15 10:08 PM

It looks like the AMG differentials. The most obvious difference is in the hanging heat sink.

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