Posted By: Adam71Charger
Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/26/15 08:39 PM
What are the limitations of the stock rocker shafts/arms? RPM limits, Lift limits?
Posted By: forphorty
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/26/15 10:15 PM
440 292 .501 Comp Magnum 5800 rpm shift point. owned for 20 + years , driven often. Stock stamped rockers. One rocker failure about 15 years ago. The holes do elongate over time though. They may not look like much,But I definitely have more faith in them than an entry level(cheap) roller rocker.
Posted By: Supercuda
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/26/15 11:14 PM
Depends on exactly which "stock" rocker setup you are referring to.
LA adjustable ones?
LA stamped?
B/RB stamped? early or late style?
B/RB adjustables?
Posted By: Adam71Charger
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/27/15 03:22 AM
Stamped from 1977 452 heads. Thinking about using the heads on a basic rebuild engine.
Posted By: ahy
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/27/15 03:43 AM
Rule of thumb, .5" lift. They have been used with 509 cams successfully but can fail with heavy springs/frequent high RPM in that application (>6000 RPM?).
Posted By: Exit1965
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/27/15 03:43 AM
I remember some online Mopar magazine article where they used stamped rockers (probably aftermarket HD versions) on a cam around .530 lift.
I have used the HD variety for years with a .509 cam and eddy heads and springs. No problems at all, not that I put a lot of miles on it, but I don't think I'm pushing the limits with them either.
Posted By: 74RALLYE
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/27/15 01:53 PM
I've had 2 Harland Sharp roller tip rockers fail on a professionally built street engine. I'm not exceeding 500hp, so the next 440 get stock rockers.
Posted By: Supercuda
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/27/15 04:22 PM
Early B/RB stamped units where known to put a pushrod thru the cup in spirited use, so Chrysler stepped up to a thicker metal to fix it. 77's should be that thicker stuff. I believe all the aftermarket stuff available today is also the thicker stuff.
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/27/15 07:26 PM
Yeah, a pushrod will poke thru the stamped rocker arms pretty quickly once the spring pressure gets much above stock levels. I've seen it happen a few times on "budget" engines. My old 1 ton truck came home on a flatbed once after a rocker arm failed in the 440. That engine had a very mild 440+6 cam in it with stock type springs.
Posted By: Supercuda
Re: Limitations of stock rockers/rocker shaft in performance aps - 04/28/15 02:15 AM
I ran a street hemi grind in my 413 with stock stamped rockers and the proper springs with zero issues. YMMV, but I know I had the later and thicker ones. Never put a came with .500" or more lift in my engines anyway.