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Hemi question. How many gen's are there

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 05:28 PM

The post on Dart blocks got me to thinking. I see gen 1,2, and 3 listed all the time on Moparts. Not being a Hemi guy exactly how many gen's are there and what are the differences.
Posted By: 340B5

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 06:02 PM

Unless I missed something;

Gen1=Desoto,etc

Gen2=Superbee, Cudas etc

Gen3= Modern Challengers, Ram trucks etc
Posted By: john55

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 06:36 PM

Quote:

Unless I missed something;

Gen1=Desoto,etc

Gen2=Superbee, Cudas etc

Gen3= Modern Challengers, Ram trucks etc







Gen 1 1951- 1958

Gen 2 1966- 1971 (street hemi)

Gen 3 2003 and up, but there are different versions of that too (gen 1 5.7- 6.1 and Gen 2 2009 and up Eagle engines and then there is the Apachie too..)
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 06:55 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Unless I missed something;

Gen1=Desoto,etc

Gen2=Superbee, Cudas etc

Gen3= Modern Challengers, Ram trucks etc







Gen 1 1951- 1958

Gen 2 1966- 1971 (street hemi)

Gen 3 2003 and up, but there are different versions of that too (gen 1 5.7- 6.1 and Gen 2 2009 and up Eagle engines and then there is the Apachie too..)





Thanks guys for clearing that up. That's where I was really getting confused. You would think there would be a much better way to address the newer engines than to go back to past engine naming.
Posted By: hudsonhornet7x

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 08:03 PM

I have heard of some of the newer engines being mentioned as a Gen 4. Is this the 6.4, 6.2?
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 08:11 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Unless I missed something;

Gen1=Desoto,etc

Gen2=Superbee, Cudas etc

Gen3= Modern Challengers, Ram trucks etc







Gen 1 1951- 1958

Gen 2 1966- 1971 (street hemi)

Gen 3 2003 and up, but there are different versions of that too (gen 1 5.7- 6.1 and Gen 2 2009 and up Eagle engines and then there is the Apachie too..)


The early Mopar different brand Hemi motors, Chrysler, Desoto and Dodge would be first gen, the race Hemi motors that came out in 1964 are Gen two motors also and the later new gen 3 hemi are the lastest version. We won't count the first Hemi type motors Chrysler made for aircraft use during WW11
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 08:31 PM

Quote:

I have heard of some of the newer engines being mentioned as a Gen 4. Is this the 6.4, 6.2?




I have heard that in reference to the Hellcat 6.2.
Posted By: Oyvind Mopar

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 08:47 PM

In addition Mopar made the race stuff branded "Hemi" (P5 Hemi and Hemi 99) that are not counted into the generations....
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 10:18 PM

They can also be loosely grouped based on their block dimensions:
G1 includes the oldest Chrysler, DeSoto and Dodge hemis with rear-mount distributor. Although very similar in design they all have different deck heights and bore pitch. This series does not include any LA-based or Plymouth-branded engine.
G2 is based on the RB platform with front-mount distributor.
G3 is a mod on the LA/Magnum engine.

More data on my page here:
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/m-table.htm
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/11/15 11:41 PM

Quote:

They can also be loosely grouped based on their block dimensions:
G1 includes the oldest Chrysler, DeSoto and Dodge hemis with rear-mount distributor. Although very similar in design they all have different deck heights and bore pitch. This series does not include any LA-based or Plymouth-branded engine.
G2 is based on the RB platform with front-mount distributor.
G3 is a mod on the LA/Magnum engine.

More data on my page here:
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/m-table.htm





GOOD info. Thanks
Posted By: chryco

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/12/15 12:46 AM

3



Gen 1 - Dizzy in back 51 - 59

Gen 2 - Dizzy in front 63 - 71

Gen 3 - Coil packs no Dizzy present
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: Hemi question. How many gen's are there - 03/12/15 11:28 PM

You'll see references to bore center distance, bore pitch, cylinder to cylinder on-center distance etc.
This is the major factor that separates engines into families (not deck height) because it governs which head, cam, and crank fits what, and suggests what cross-brand conversion may be possible (such as SBC V8 head on Chevy L6).
Chrysler has used quite a few (* some now extinct). Here they are, in size order:
4.090" Jeep & Dodge truck 4.7 liter OHC
4.1875" Dodge Red Ram hemi & poly (also Plymouth & DeSoto poly)*
4.3125" DeSoto Firedome hemi*
4.460" A, LA, Magnum, Gen-3 hemi
4.5625" Chrysler Firepower hemi & poly*
4.800" B, RB, Gen-3 hemi
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