Posted By: joes68340s
Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/20/14 01:52 AM
Has anyone installed a Gear vendor in an E body. If so what were the problem areas. I have a friend trying to have it installed on an A body and its a mess. So bad that I don't think its worth the effort. I saw an install on a 70 B body seemed almost trouble free.
Posted By: G_bob
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/20/14 04:08 AM
Put one in my 74 challenger behind the 440/727. Sheet metal-wise just had to do a little BFH clearancing work in the tunnel. Had to redo the exhaust because the TTI h-pipe was in the way and then, of course, shorten the driveshaft.
Posted By: Twostick
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/20/14 06:06 AM
If you haven't started yet, get a shorty 727 from a truck and get the GV shorty kit. It's about 10" shorter over all. The shorty trans will have a fixed yoke instead of the slip yoke so it's easy to spot one.
10" shorter will help with the driveline angle.
The GV unit adds a little over a foot to the length of the trans. If you start with a trans that is 10" shorter to begin with, your overall length should only be about 3" longer than stock.
It would have made life for the guy with the A-body a lot easier.
Kevin
Posted By: Twostick
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/20/14 06:10 AM
This is the case you want.
Kevin
Posted By: Mopar73340
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/20/14 02:56 PM
As stated above it is fairly simple in an e-body with just a few dimples in the tunnel and of course the exhaust and driveshaft. TTI makes a H pipe for the gearvendors setup. I have one in my 73. One of the best improvements I ever made.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/20/14 03:52 PM
I went the other direction on my Rampage.. I used
a 518 but I took off the lock up portion.. still has
the OD... but to use this you would have to re-work
the trans tunnel.. since I was making a floor pan it
didnt matter to me.. but it was MUCH cheaper.. I have
$450 into the trans and a rebuild kit VS $3000 for
the GV
Posted By: joes68340s
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/20/14 07:51 PM
My friend did use the shorty 727 and it was a pain in the A body. Hes having a Trans shop install it and they are just butchering the tunnel to fit it. I was curious about the E body install mostly with standard length trans. What was the length of driveshaft after install. Being its a 70 Cuda the drive shaft is shorter already and its a pain with the stock drive shaft angle as the car is lower than stock. Im thinking if I were to convert from 727 I would go 518 instead.
Posted By: turbobitt
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/21/14 04:34 AM
I installed one in my own car and installed one prior to mine. I started with the shorty kit because of the know issues and thought it would be a complete bolt-in but found out it was a complete waste. The rear flange clobbers the trans X-member and would need extensive modifications I was not willing to do. The regular kit needs some floor clearancing near the speedo output and above the GV unit but can't remember exactly but far less than the shorty unit.
AG.
Posted By: screamindriver
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/22/14 06:18 AM
The short E-body driveshaft does fine within the range GV suggests...{around 2* limit } which obviously is'nt what most need for some hard launches and acceleration...On the street,what I've found is setting up over that and the vibration issues could rear it's ugly head on the highway... I used 1350 u joints front and back...
Posted By: joes68340s
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/23/14 12:41 AM
The thing that bothers me the most is the short driveshaft. Im already starting out shorter than most at 108 wheel base. I can handle the massaging and the fabbing but that to short shaft scares me. By the way I would never have thought of using an air hammer that is a handy tool and to think I used one all the time working in the Airline industry. Thanks
Posted By: jose jones
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/23/14 03:42 AM
Hey Preddy, what are using for the transmission mount using a gear vendor on a 69 B body?
Posted By: JDMopar
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/24/14 05:15 PM
I installed a GV in my 71 Challenger, and there wasn't much to it. Just had to do the same as G Bob, and beat the clearance into the trans tunnel with a BFH. I used the stock trans mount, and had zero vibration problems. My car was a column shift automatic, bucket seat car. You couldn't look at the point between the seats that I had to
the tunnel, and even see that anything was different. Good luck.
Posted By: markz528
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/24/14 05:29 PM
How do you put it in overdrive? Do you need a special shifter?
Posted By: joes68340s
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/24/14 11:05 PM
JDMopar that's good to know. I think the Challenger has a few inchs on my Cuda. I also have a column shifter 70 AAR I have toyed with the idea of floor mounting the shifter But I think I keep it on the column.
Posted By: johnnycuda
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/24/14 11:54 PM
Hey joes68340, I have a GV in my '70 Cuda, for about 2 years now, no problems, as said above, some floor clearancing, stock crossmember and mount, driveshaft is kind of short, but a couple thousand miles so far.
My trans has a reverse manual valve body, so I don't have the speedo cable hooked up, I activate the unit with a toggle mounted on my Pro Stick housing. I have a 4.56 gear, 295/60-15 tires, and cruising at 70, rpm's are at 2800.
Posted By: joes68340s
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/25/14 03:08 AM
Johnnycuda do you ever run it at the track. Just wondering any vibe issue. Thanks Joe
Posted By: Devil
Re: Gearvendor install on an E body - 12/25/14 05:55 AM
Here's a good video from Hot Rod on installing a Gear Vendors in a 70 Superbee. I know it isn't an e-body... but close enough.
http://youtu.be/SywsCGnoXOURyan