Posted By: dart4forte
Master Cylinder Color - 11/20/14 05:58 AM
Black or as cast?
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That totally depends on the car, the brake package and the year.
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i don't recall ever seeing a painted master cylinder back in the day. why would they be painted? if any dot 3 fluid, and i think that's all there was, was spilled on them the paint would be gone.
Quote:Me thinks not, I've never saw a original pre 1971 Mopr that had a painted M.C., slant six, to hemi cars My 1970 V code Charger R/T with a SCP date of 10-29-1969 had a plan old non painted M.C. like yours with power disc brakes Same thing on many 340,383, 440 U and V codes B and E bodies as well as several slant six Chargers I saw back in the day The old brake fluid will weep through the cast iron and make the paint sluff off, the paint falling onto the exhaust manifold can cause a fireQuote:
i don't recall ever seeing a painted master cylinder back in the day. why would they be painted? if any dot 3 fluid, and i think that's all there was, was spilled on them the paint would be gone.
Many cars had painted master cylinders. This is correct for my '70 B body with PDBs;
Dave
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Me thinks not, I've never saw a original pre 1971 Mopr that had a painted M.C., slant six, to hemi cars My 1970 V code Charger R/T with a SCP date of 10-29-1969 had a plan old non painted M.C. like yours with power disc brakes Same thing on many 340,383, 440 U and V codes B and E bodies as well as several slant six Chargers I saw back in the day The old brake fluid will weep through the cast iron and make the paint sluff off, the paint falling onto the exhaust manifold can cause a fire
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That totally depends on the car, the brake package and the year.
68 Dart GTS. 383. KH disk brakes
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NOS MS;
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NOS MS;
Hemi MS.
Dave
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NOS MS;
Hemi MS.
Dave
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Me thinks not, I've never saw a original pre 1971 Mopr that had a painted M.C., slant six, to hemi cars My 1970 V code Charger R/T with a SCP date of 10-29-1969 had a plan old non painted M.C. like yours with power disc brakes Same thing on many 340,383, 440 U and V codes B and E bodies as well as several slant six Chargers I saw back in the day The old brake fluid will weep through the cast iron and make the paint sluff off, the paint falling onto the exhaust manifold can cause a fire
Sorry but you're wrong. I'll go through my pics for survivors but I've researched '70 'Bees for a decade now (especially Lynch Rd. cars) and I can tell you that they came painted.
Dave
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That totally depends on the car, the brake package and the year.
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Here is a pic from a 69 Dart GTS with KH power disc brakes. I believe that it is original.
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MS - Master Cylinder.
I meant to type MC.
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Charger, Road Runner, & Super Bee Authentic Restoration Guide written by Paul Herd page 95 states, Master Cylinders 1968 "The cylinder itself should be painted cast-iron gray to simulate the fresh-cast look, and the cover and hold down clamp should have cadmium gold appearance. Page 95 goes onto state The Federally-Mandated dual circuit cylinder first appeared on 1967 models. Both 67 & 68 used Part number 2808599. Chrysler Muscle Car Parts Interchange Manual written by Paul Herd page 85 shows part number 2808599 applicable to 1967-69 Barracuda, Fury, Monaco, Newport, New Yorker, and Polara. 1967 - 68 Belvedere, Charger, and Coronet, with drum brakes. Used in both power and non-power assisted applications.
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Charger, Road Runner, & Super Bee Authentic Restoration Guide written by Paul Herd page 95 states, Master Cylinders 1968 "The cylinder itself should be painted cast-iron gray to simulate the fresh-cast look, and the cover and hold down clamp should have cadmium gold appearance. Page 95 goes onto state The Federally-Mandated dual circuit cylinder first appeared on 1967 models. Both 67 & 68 used Part number 2808599. Chrysler Muscle Car Parts Interchange Manual written by Paul Herd page 85 shows part number 2808599 applicable to 1967-69 Barracuda, Fury, Monaco, Newport, New Yorker, and Polara. 1967 - 68 Belvedere, Charger, and Coronet, with drum brakes. Used in both power and non-power assisted applications.
2808599 is a drum brake master cylinder. 67-70 drum brake Mopars all used the same master cylinder and it had the bolt on style cap. Generally accepted to be cast iron with plated cap, though I have NOS examples that have the body E coated black with a plated cap.
The OP asked about a disc brake master cylinder. All the Mopar disc brake master cylinders from '67-'70 were painted gloss black except the flange and the area by the outlets where protective plugs were installed prior to painting. Here is an NOS assembly line '67-'70 A body manual disc brake master cylinder casting number 2225541 date coded 212th day of '69. Interestingly has a splotch of white paint on the front of the bore area of the casting.
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I can live with that. Looks like that's a book I should get.
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I can live with that. Looks like that's a book I should get.
Quote:Quote:Quote:I myself would not use that book for reference restoration.
I can live with that. Looks like that's a book I should get.
There are lots of mistakes in that book.
Dave
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:I myself would not use that book for reference restoration.
I can live with that. Looks like that's a book I should get.
There are lots of mistakes in that book.
Dave
Ditto
Ron
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:I myself would not use that book for reference restoration.
I can live with that. Looks like that's a book I should get.
There are lots of mistakes in that book.
Dave
Ditto
Ron
There are lots of mistakes in every car book article I've ever seen or read
I own a 1969 Dart GTS 383 4 speed car without power brakes, it has the stock Kelsey Hayes front disc brakes on it, this is the M.C. that was on it when I bought it in the early 1990s,(this car was sold at Saddleback dodge in Orange County, CA in late 1968) it works very well, it doesn't seem to have a residual valve in the back half of the M.C., the front tires spin as easy as any other front disc brake Mopar I have owned, drivened and worked on or raced