Posted By: Choppintime
Small block headers - A body - 08/19/14 09:40 PM
Saw these for sale and wondering if anyone can give me any pros/cons on these headers :
http://www.sandersonheaders.com/Sanderson-DD8-Small-Block-Chrysler-Blockhugger-Header-Set.htmlI was going to go the TTI route. I'm just not sure which headers are best as far as performance/fit. I'd rather not have to do a ton of stuff to get headers to fit in my Demon.
Posted By: RobX4406
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/19/14 09:50 PM
Dougs D453
Check autozone with a 20% off code. About 525ish delivered for a set of coated full length header.
They are less than tti, fit without the tubes going around the steering linkage and will be better perfroming than the 1.5" tubes on those block huggers.
Posted By: burdar
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/19/14 09:56 PM
I'd be interested to see how those fit. It sounds like there might be some steering column issues. I just ordered TTI's at the Nats. They haven't arrived yet. I have a feeling they are going to hang too low. I need to mock them up to see. A shorty would give me more ground clearance.
Posted By: 70AARcuda
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/20/14 01:12 AM
Dougs and TTi header do not hang low...
Posted By: roe
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/20/14 01:19 AM
I have Doug's on a smallblock in a 71 b body with power steering and column shift auto. Fit is perfect and they don't hang low. Didn't have to remove any steering linkage to get them in. Thick guage tubing and flanges. Quality item.
roe
Posted By: RJS
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/20/14 01:55 AM
The only thing to note: You need a mini starter with Doug's can't speak for any other brands.
Ron
Posted By: burdar
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/20/14 02:37 AM
I looked at a-bodies at the Nats. With as low as I want the front end, it will be close. The car I'm modeling my car after couldn't use them because they were too low. The only way to find out is to mock them up. I just received the headers today. It will be awhile before the engine is back together to test fit.
What is a good rule of thumb as far as ground clearance to have?
Posted By: burdar
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/20/14 07:35 PM
I'll find out once they are mocked up and the ride height set. If they end up being too low, I doubt I'll have trouble selling them.
Posted By: 2boltmain
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/23/14 04:16 PM
Its good to see another header offering where the tubes do not route so low! The price is nice too at $355. So smallblock mopar folks have some good $$ options. We can get cheapies that hang low (made of thin steel as well) for under $180. The Sandersons offer thick steel and ground clearance for $350 (yes small tubes and raw steel) From there Dougs are $460- to $630 Raw vs coated. Then the TTIs at near $800 and the super nice Schumachers also near $800. Right now with my intended use and power output I like the Sanderson shorties. When a header is made form heavy duty steel I noticed even high heat spray can paint holds up very well on them. On the typical cheapy super thin Black Jack type headers the paint- as well as the thin steel were cooked and flaky rusted within months.
Posted By: FASTBACK340
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/24/14 01:42 PM
The Dougs are a good bargain and fit well, as do the TTI's, but at a price. I have the TTI's, but my car's stance is a bit high as I live in Queens, N.Y….. where the roads are shot. But ground clearance wouldn't be an issue as they fit tight against the undercarriage.
Now, if your going TTI's with a 4 speed w/ scatter shield, break out your air saw….and have a torch handy to massage your Z bar.
Posted By: 2boltmain
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/24/14 11:08 PM
I thought the expensive Schumachers were made by TTI??
Posted By: Mattax
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/25/14 03:47 AM
Schumachers: According to the installation instructions, they are nearly as much work to install as TTI or Doug's.
TTI Shorties: Supposedly being reworked for better fit in the A-bodies. See their website for limitations they know of. The ones in Steve's pic are probably fine for E & B bodies, but may run too close to the driver side frame rail for some '67 up A bodies. Shift linkage may need modification.
Sanderson Shorties: Not seen a set that fit without modification, either in person or on a forum. With enough digging on FABO, you can find a couple of people of tried. Note that Sanderson sells or has sold a couple of different shorty headers. Perhaps they've made modifications in the last couple of years to the same part number....
If you do buy them, please let us know how it works out.
If you don't want to spend a lot of time fitting and modifying, or even chance it, then the TTI and Doug model listed early consistantly gets the thumbs up in the forums. Both have decent potential for more torque and horsepower. The stepped tube TTI's could have an edge at the track on a larger displacement or higher revving engine.
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/29/14 10:21 PM
I just gave them a call to try to verify the fitment if I wanted to install them on my '68 Dart with PS and a 273. The tech guy didn't seem too knowledgeable. With regards to the PS hose he said, "If the line goes straight up, you may need to move it 90 degrees to clear it." He also said the headers may come close to the coupler. Apparently they fit a pair on a "1967 Cuda."
One of my friends said not to buy them and just save for some long tube headers (Doug's or TTi's). But even with a built up 273, I don't think it would be that much of a problem.
Posted By: GTX70sixpack
Re: Small block headers - A body - 08/30/14 02:58 AM
Chased the same vibration for years 60-65, different diff, 3 tranny's, 2 used shafts out of other cars I owned that had no vibration, new DC drive shaft, eng mounts, trans mounts, belanced the eng, 2 flywheels, after 25 yrs I decided to live with it. finally a Schumachers poly trans mount cured it. I was getting conversion mounts for something else and thought what the heck, I'll give it a try. Smooth at any speed
. If they lowered their price to within $50 of TTI they would gobble up all of TTI's sales.