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Engine oil suggestions

Posted By: Merlin45

Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 12:54 PM

Just had my 440/6 rebuilt and put several hundred miles on it and wanted inputs on best engine oil options and where to get it when I change the oil. The engine is a basic 440 build, 030 over and a mild cam, new headers, auto trans, with a new 4 row radiator. My engine builder recommends a good quality race oil, recommending 20w 50 for the summer and 10w 30 for the winter (though the car is parked during the winter months). What oil would meet my needs? Where do I get it? Do I order it and have it shipped to my home address or go to a parts store and get it.
Thanks!
Posted By: Exit1965

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 01:40 PM

This topic comes up a lot.

I'm no expert but I'd recommend Rotella T or Delo 400 LE. Both have fairly high levels of zinc to protect a flat tappet cam and are easy to find and not expensive.

I run it, my dad runs it, many here run this diesel oil no problems.

I personally think race oil would be money out the window for your engine. It sounds fairly mild. Even fairly wild engines are getting by with cheap diesel oil.
Posted By: Pynzo

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 01:52 PM

I use Valvoline 20/50. You can get it at most part stores.
Posted By: HemiRick

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 05:02 PM

I 2nd the diesel oil suggestion, modern day motor oil does not have the stuff a flat tappet cam needs.
Posted By: YO7_A66

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 05:11 PM

Brad Penn Green Oil.

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Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 05:20 PM

X2 on the Bradd Penn & your next decision will be how often you'll change it. I would checkout www.bobistheoilguy.com Valvoline delo rotella diesel oil & others are good as is using GM EOS as an additive & might checkout hughes engines for his take on it
Posted By: superwrench

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 05:21 PM

I used to run 20w-50 in my Hemi car. It had awesome oil pressure, but the downside was the time it took the pressure to rise when started cold. I didn't like that.....a good 5 seconds for the guage to reach 85#.

So....to make the story short, the only vehicle out of the 5 I have that DOESN'T use 15W40 Rotella is my wifes 07 Charger 3.5 HO.

Makes the trip to the parts store simple !!!
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 05:26 PM

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, the only vehicle out of the 5 I have that DOESN'T use 15W40 Rotella .

Makes the trip to the parts store simple !!!


I'm assuming you're getting the multiple case discount
Posted By: superwrench

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 05:51 PM

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, the only vehicle out of the 5 I have that DOESN'T use 15W40 Rotella .

Makes the trip to the parts store simple !!!


I'm assuming you're getting the multiple case discount




LOL ! .....buy it by the 19 litre pail.....60 bucks. One heck of a lot cheaper than individual jugs.
I just usually stick some Comp #159 break-in stuff in with the oil when I service the race car.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 05:55 PM

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! .....buy it by the 19 litre pail.....60 bucks.


I gotta bone up on my metric, how many gallons is that in American
Posted By: DAYCLONA

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 06:06 PM

Royal Purple
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 06:08 PM

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! .....buy it by the 19 litre pail.....60 bucks.


I gotta bone up on my metric, how many gallons is that in American




5 gallons
Posted By: superbeedave

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 06:09 PM

Brad Penn!
Posted By: superwrench

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 06:12 PM

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! .....buy it by the 19 litre pail.....60 bucks.


I gotta bone up on my metric, how many gallons is that in American




5 gallons





....4.17 IMPERIAL gallons (just to confuse things ) !!!!
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 06:16 PM

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! .....buy it by the 19 litre pail.....60 bucks.


I gotta bone up on my metric, how many gallons is that in American




5 gallons





....4.17 IMPERIAL gallons (just to confuse things ) !!!!




Only Feets drives an Imperial!
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/09/14 06:29 PM

I have been using 5W20Wt Valvoline non synthetic in all my Hi Po Mopar motors for a long time, the roller lifter motors get no additives, the flat lifter cam motors get a bottle of either zinc additive or Comp Cams lcam lube There have been horror storys posted on this site about deisel oil foaming, I have no expereince with that so I won't comment on it You need to think about what oil does for our motors, it needs to lubricate and cool That being said thinner oil moves quicker and with less resistance to the oil pump when cold, it also take less HP to turn the oil pump I've seen 10 HP loss at 130 F with straight 30 Wt oil years ago compared to the same oil and motor when we let the oil temps climb to 160 F No loss or gain of HP or torque when using 5W20Wt from 80F to 230 F I do run very loose oil clearances on the rod and main bearings also, .003 + on both I've shifted my 650 HP + pump gas street motor at or above 7000 RPM for a long time when running it at the track, a lot of laps over the years with no noticeable bearing wear or abuse OP, run what you feel comfortable with BTW, I do run both Rotella and Delo 400 in my CTD truck, depending on where and when I have the oil and filter changed and what they have in stock If you want to run race oil in your motor the only one I would run now is the RACING Pennzoil 25W50WT It has some lube additives, friction reduction, that no other oil has that I know of You can feel it when rubbing it between your fingers All the SCCA raers I know use it now
Posted By: Merlin45

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/10/14 12:17 AM

Is the Pennzoil 25W50WT available off the shelf or do you need to order it from a part store? What's the cost per Quart? Many people talk about Zinc content and I see normal commercial oils recommended, do they have a high enough Zinc content? Several people run diesel oil and have great luck, some worry the oil foams so that makes me stay away from diesel oil in my engine. I change my oil once per year due to working in Kuwait so my drive miles are very small per year. Thanks for your comments.
Posted By: Merlin45

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/10/14 12:20 AM

Do you order the oil direct from Brad Penn? Or order it from a parts store? What's the cost per quart? I've heard of BP products and the happy customers but have never used them.
Posted By: ahy

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/10/14 12:23 AM

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This topic comes up a lot.

I'm no expert but I'd recommend Rotella T or Delo 400 LE. Both have fairly high levels of zinc to protect a flat tappet cam and are easy to find and not expensive.

I run it, my dad runs it, many here run this diesel oil no problems.

I personally think race oil would be money out the window for your engine. It sounds fairly mild. Even fairly wild engines are getting by with cheap diesel oil.




Me too in a low deck stroker. Rotella T 15W40 gives me good oil pressure at hot idle and handles the moderately cool temps (mid 20's) I occasionally encounter in 3 season driving. I usually get it at Walmart.
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/10/14 12:53 AM

I use either 15w40 Mobil Delvac diesel oil or Shell Rotella 15w40 diesel.Never any problems.
Posted By: YO7_A66

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/10/14 01:23 AM

I order the BP from a local oil distributor. It costs about 58$ per case.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/10/14 02:02 AM

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I use either 15w40 Mobil Delvac diesel oil or Shell Rotella 15w40 diesel.Never any problems.


I treid using Mobil Delvac in my 2006 CTD 3500 for several oil changes, I switched back to Delo 400 and Rotella because of the increase motor noise(Lack of lubricant noise ) I would hear on startup coming from my motor when I would let is sit several days between usage, especially in the winter I started using Delvac on the advice of a freind who owned several large H.D. cross country diesel tractors pulling max loads, it was and is, (I think) the cheapest price diesel oil out there I want all my motors to live a long, useful life
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/10/14 02:11 AM

I like Brad Penn oil for flat tappet cam
I run pretty heavy springs and an aggressive ramp cam and have zero issues
Gus

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Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/10/14 02:15 AM

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Posted By: Junky

Re: Engine oil suggestions - 05/11/14 09:09 PM

Delo 400 LE, 15/40 for me.
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