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318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer

Posted By: plyrr69

318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/06/14 10:38 AM

Hello

I am on the way to convert my 318 to a 413. for shure I have to change the Transmission to my car, but how about engine Mounts and so on, any sugestions?

thx in advance

D.
Posted By: dynamite

Re: 318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/06/14 02:04 PM

Should be easy,the 61 came with a BB..back in 1964 a friend pulled a 318 out of his 60,and put in a 413..from a New Yorker... damn thing was fast then..I Think he could use the same iron,t- flight but they had a different bellhousing for the BB..
Posted By: stumpy

Re: 318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/06/14 05:42 PM

Isn't the emergency brake part of the trans on that body style? Although it won't be bad if the new trans has park which the original didn't.
Posted By: therocks

Re: 318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/06/14 06:29 PM

IIRC The bells are removable from the iron trannys.Only thing is the early cranks are different.You cant mix and match them.You need a 62 up trans when they went to aluminum case.Then if 65 up you need a drive shaft with automatic.64 was the last year for B&T shaft for autos.65 last year for 4 speeds.If the 413 is pre 62 it will work.Rocky
Posted By: longram60

Re: 318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/06/14 11:30 PM

You need some 'Floating Power' big block engine mounts. They look like the poly mounts in there, but are different. You can get some aftermarket mounts at Imperial Services
Posted By: therocks

Re: 318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/07/14 01:11 AM

Those mounts work well.My son has the prototypes in his 62 300.Been in for years.I also have them in my 65.Rocky
Posted By: plyrr69

Re: 318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/07/14 09:33 AM

Thx alot, so I can possibly use also the standard mounts. btw... how about swaybar? make sens so brint the car to more stabilisation, or not?
Posted By: dogdays

Re: 318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/07/14 05:19 PM

Switzerland, eh? Not so easy to find parts over there.

American cars from the '60s were boats, cornering was the farthest thing from their mind. So swaybars and some good gas shock absorbers would really help.

I'd suggest a 1 1/8" front bar, and a 3/4" rear bar as a safe place to start. On a rear wheel drive car the front bar always has to be stiffer than the rear bar.

You may consider stroking the Poly motor, it'll go more than 390 cubic inches with a 4" crank. People even make stroker kits for them.

R.
Posted By: plyrr69

Re: 318 Poly to 413 Engine Swap in 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer - 04/08/14 02:57 PM

Hi, thx alot, i have already a 413 to put in the car... where should i get them? Firmfeel?
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