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1970 Road Runner horn issue

Posted By: mowch70

1970 Road Runner horn issue - 10/20/13 09:46 PM

The horn works fine when the car is running, but when the car is off, it works about 20% of the time. Embarrassing when I'm at a show and someone wants to hear the horn and it won't work. Is the horn relay the issue?
Posted By: mikemee1331

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 10/20/13 10:02 PM

that's where i would start. if that doesn't solve it you'll have to bust out the volt meter and trace the power in both running and not running. what's the wiring like? original, repro, mess of splices and tape? have you ever taken the wheel off and looked at the horn switch? it could be the spot where you 'park' the steering wheel (70 was the first year for column mount locking wheel isn't it?. it could be worn or not making contact.
Posted By: mowch70

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 10/20/13 10:14 PM

Wiring is original and in good shape. I've had the steering wheel off to replace the ignition switch and everything looked fine. I didn't think about the spot where the steering wheel "parks". I'll have to stop the car with wheels turned a little bit, and see if that changes things. I think it's the relay, but couldn't think of anything else. Thanks.
Posted By: MOPARMIKE69

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 10/21/13 02:26 PM

By the way where is the relay on a 70. I know a 69 has it out by the horn. Guy in my club says in 70 it is under the dash?
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 10/21/13 02:52 PM

What mike said, grab your meter & get after it when it ain't working to find the part time open. As you know wires in a circuit lose continuity at the terminals/ends & I'd check all of em & seperate the pull apart connector under the steering colume & ohm it to see if the problem is under the steering wheel. I would think that the relay is still on the firewall but you'd easily spot it if it is
Posted By: b54406barrel

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 10/21/13 04:14 PM

Had that happen about 30 years ago. It was a little corrosion on the contacts right at the horn hub on the wheel. Relay is bolted to the underside of the bottom of the dash, between park brake handle & steering column.
Posted By: mikemee1331

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 10/21/13 08:25 PM

and i'm pretty sure 70 is the first year for a locking wheel which would put the contacts in the same spot everytime.
Posted By: rickseeman

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 11/05/13 05:24 PM

Will a RR horn work without a relay? I want to put one on something that just a has a 12 volt wire going to it for the beep beep sound.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 11/05/13 05:58 PM

If you used an add on momentary contact switch & wires of adequate gauge it'd work. The steering wheel contact, grounds the wire so there would not be a way for the steering wheel contact to open/close a hot 12V power in feed wire which the add on momentary contact switch would do. Not sure if that is what you are asking
Posted By: 340SHORTY

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 11/06/13 06:16 AM

for it to go beep beep you need to push the button twice...LOL
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 11/06/13 06:44 AM

Quote:

for it to go beep beep you need to push the button twice...LOL


Ding ding ding I do believe we have a winna
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: 1970 Road Runner horn issue - 11/06/13 03:28 PM

Quote:

Will a RR horn work without a relay? I want to put one on something that just a has a 12 volt wire going to it for the beep beep sound.


You could run 12V to the horn with an inline fuse holder/20A fuse then mount the horn so it is insulated from the frame ground then run a ground wire from the horn case to the wire on the bulkhead coming from the st column that used to go to the horn relay. Or just sub in the RR horn instead of the OE horns & use the OE relay setup
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