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WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING
Posted By: Pyper70
WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/16/13 07:14 PM
I started the job two years ago...I bought the diamond headlights, the set of 4 was 100 bucks on eBay with the H4 bulb setup....Paid another $150 for the HID kit complete with ballasts, dual fuses, and relays. I tried installing them and the rear housing of the headlight interfered with the linkage of my headlight doors. I thought I was going to have to do some cutting....
Sold the headlights instead to my buddy for his 72 Roadrunner....I bought the Hella H4 housings. Far superior product, all metal rear and all glass up front. Fit perfectly into the headlight buckets. The HIDs fit with MORE than enough room for the linkage to rise/fall...I have 6000K on the Hi/Lo and the Hi Beams I have a yellowish (I goofed) 4000K beam which I will replace sooner or later. I installed a painless wiring harness on the Hi-Beam side....I can't wait to take her out for a drive....the way she lights up the driveway is amazing...I will try to get pictures up soon....
Anyone else done this upgrade to their ride?
Posted By: 540DUSTER
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/16/13 09:54 PM
I hate those lights,too darn bright.Get them aimed and then drop them down a foot.
Posted By: jglen490
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/16/13 10:00 PM
I hope you understand that the color temperature (i.e., 6000K or 4000K) has nothing to do with brightness - it has everything and only to do with color. Brightness is the amount of light that actually gets sent out from the light fixture. That has to do with how the reflector is designed and adjusted, how well the lamp sends light out, and how the lamp matches to the reflector.
Blue light - around 6000K - is extremely annoying to oncoming traffic, and not because of brightness. A 4000k light can be extremely annoying, but only if it is aimed wrong or the lamp doesn't match the reflector. The best light for the human eye is right around 4000K to 4300K.
See Dan Stern's discussion sometime over at Allpar.
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/16/13 11:56 PM
she isn't a daily driver...I want all the safety for ME on the road...so i can dodge the lookie loo's
Posted By: feets
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/17/13 09:46 PM
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I want all the safety for ME on the road
That's what all the other drivers with super annoying headlights say.
Posted By: cjskotni
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/17/13 09:56 PM
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I want all the safety for ME on the road
That's what all the other drivers with super annoying headlights say.
Yeah those are dangerous for everyone else (including me) who get blinded by those. They should ban those bluish lights. 
Posted By: kentj340
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/18/13 02:57 AM
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They should ban those bluish lights.
A 20mm cannon ought to be about right. Don't want to shoot any drivers, just the lights.
Posted By: Bumbalawski
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/18/13 03:41 AM
We have the "high beams for safety" bunch in our area. They can see everything. You can only see their glaring lights. The 20MM cannon sounds like a good idea.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/18/13 01:29 PM
I don't mind any color as long as you have them adjusted and you turn off your high beams. Problem around here is people don't have them adjusted right. And really unless you are on a back road in the middle of the night there is ZERO need for high beams. Especailly in this area...you can practically drive w/o lights at all and be ok.
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/18/13 02:38 PM
I have my Low beams adjusted to just below my knee at 20 feet away....Thats what I was told to do years ago when you don't have the proper headlight adjustment tool.
Hi Beams...well...they just go anywhere they want to but they are on momentarily
Posted By: kentj340
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/21/13 06:39 AM
If people would only LOOK at the car in front of them carefully and SEE that the interior and the rear view mirror are all lit up. It means their headlights are on high beam or maladjusted. Duh.
Correct low beams illuminate the trunk in front of you, not the interior.
If you can see my illuminated finger, dim 'em dammit!
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/23/13 02:21 PM
I drove home last week from the exhaust shop...I lit up the road...but no rear views...The guy hit his hazards...I dunno what he wanted from me...he stepped on his brakes to get my attention...i backed off a little bit and then I hit all four headlights to show up that my lows here on...then I pulled up along side him quickly and rumbled him up with my exhaust...if anything...they need to be adjusted higher honestly..
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/23/13 02:42 PM
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I drove home last week from the exhaust shop...I lit up the road...but no rear views...The guy hit his hazards...I dunno what he wanted from me...he stepped on his brakes to get my attention...i backed off a little bit and then I hit all four headlights to show up that my lows here on...then I pulled up along side him quickly and rumbled him up with my exhaust...if anything...they need to be adjusted higher honestly..
I'm guessing your lights are annnnnooyying hince the brake check. If somebody creeped up on me with blinding lights, I'd hit the brakes too. You do understand the the human eye is drawn to light, so even if you try and look away from the rear view mirror You still can't help but look. AND our eyes adjust much much faster to light then darkness, so it takes a while to get you night vision back. That's one reason I HATE the new LED tail lights, they are way to bright.
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/23/13 11:08 PM
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I drove home last week from the exhaust shop...I lit up the road...but no rear views...The guy hit his hazards...I dunno what he wanted from me...he stepped on his brakes to get my attention...i backed off a little bit and then I hit all four headlights to show up that my lows here on...then I pulled up along side him quickly and rumbled him up with my exhaust...if anything...they need to be adjusted higher honestly..
I'm guessing your lights are annnnnooyying hince the brake check. If somebody creeped up on me with blinding lights, I'd hit the brakes too. You do understand the the human eye is drawn to light, so even if you try and look away from the rear view mirror You still can't help but look. AND our eyes adjust much much faster to light then darkness, so it takes a while to get you night vision back. That's one reason I HATE the new LED tail lights, they are way to bright.
if I was driving a Land Rover where the vehicle sits higher...would this even be a debate now? The headlights are frosted and have the marks on the inside, its not a clear glass. The bulbs themselves have a deflector shield. There is a new gadget found on cars...its called night shade for the rearview...that notch on the rear view mirror that no one ever uses....it's there for night driving...keep your eyes shielded 
Posted By: feets
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/23/13 11:38 PM
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if I was driving a Land Rover where the vehicle sits higher...would this even be a debate now? The headlights are frosted and have the marks on the inside, its not a clear glass. The bulbs themselves have a deflector shield. There is a new gadget found on cars...its called night shade for the rearview...that notch on the rear view mirror that no one ever uses....it's there for night driving...keep your eyes shielded
Dimming the side mirror is not always possible.
Like it or not, HID lights can be blinding to other drivers. It's not always direct light. Frequently it can be reflections off other surfaces, including the road itself.
Light still scatters when it hits the atmosphere.
Posted By: Furyman
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/24/13 12:18 AM
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Light still scatters when it hits the atmosphere.
and C Body bumpers
Posted By: rbstroker
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/24/13 02:12 PM
Put me in the "I hate 'em column". I've been blinded by them more times than I care to remember. Try driving directly in to the rising or setting sun.
Posted By: 05dakota
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/24/13 02:47 PM
where I live this retro is illegal and wont pass inspection
Posted By: stumpy
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/24/13 03:36 PM
Those blue lights should be illegal everywhere.
Posted By: babarracuda
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/24/13 09:41 PM
Wait until pass 65 and remember all the people you blinded. I've wanted to get a 1,000,000 power spot light and flash it at you selfish morons. The law says not to drive over the speed that your headlight allow. That doesn't mean brighter and faster at night.
Posted By: Hotwheelsjr
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/24/13 10:41 PM
LOL...look at all the haters. I'm with Pyper on this one. You all hate HIDs because YOU don't have them. as someone else has already pointed out, they are only annoying to other drivers if they are not adjusted correctly. We're in 2013 folks -- halogen bulbs with a 20 foot reach don't cut it any more. Get with the times...
Posted By: stumpy
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/24/13 10:53 PM
We hate them because they are blinding to on coming drivers. It has nothing to do with not having the import wannabe junk blue lights. I have no trouble at all seeing with my sylvania silver stars and they don't bother other drivers. Of course some people don't give a crap about how what they do affects others.
Posted By: feets
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/24/13 11:46 PM
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LOL...look at all the haters. I'm with Pyper on this one. You all hate HIDs because YOU don't have them. as someone else has already pointed out, they are only annoying to other drivers if they are not adjusted correctly. We're in 2013 folks -- halogen bulbs with a 20 foot reach don't cut it any more. Get with the times...
I deal with HIDs all day long. When they're OEM installations they are tolerable at best. They have improved over the years and the 2014 Mercedes seem to be a bit easier on other drivers. Naturally, the vehicle buyers love the vision at night.
Aftermarket installations are quite different. I have yet to see an installation with properly designed reflectors and lenses. There are tons of bulb kits that stuff HIDs in halogen housings. They are horrible. The reflectors need to be totally different for the HID bulbs. Drivers with these cars enjoy the light because it's scattering all over the place and lighting up the whole neighborhood.
Properly designed, they're okay. Sadly, few cars have properly designed lights. Nobody remembers seeing the good ones because they're not memorable.
Everybody remembers the bad ones because it generates negative emotions.
Posted By: Fat_Mike
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/25/13 12:40 AM
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she isn't a daily driver...I want all the safety for ME on the road...so i can dodge the lookie loo's
If you're blinding oncoming traffic, YOU are NOT really all that SAFE. Obviously they're installed and you're convinced that all is well...and maybe it is. But that aforementioned "brake check" was for a reason. I sincerely hope that it doesn't take a blinded driver meeting you in a head-on collision to change your way of thinking.
Posted By: Mebsuta
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 09/25/13 01:24 AM
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I drove home last week from the exhaust shop...I lit up the road...but no rear views...The guy hit his hazards...I dunno what he wanted from me...he stepped on his brakes to get my attention...i backed off a little bit and then I hit all four headlights to show up that my lows here on...then I pulled up along side him quickly and rumbled him up with my exhaust...if anything...they need to be adjusted higher honestly..
O my.
Posted By: Cheeto
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/13/13 07:50 AM
Feets covered it best. Generally, HID conversion bulbs do not sit in the same position within the housing as the halogens the housings were designed for. This causes light to be reflected in directions not originally intended (think of how a Maglight flashlight adjusts the beam from pinpoint to flood). Add in some cheaply made housings and a lack of any attempt to re-aim the lights afterwards and you've got a scattered mess.
I have projector housings (with HIDs) in place of the stock driving lights on my lifted truck. The beam cutoff is such that it does not go above the door handle of most cars crossing in front of me at an intersection. I run these and no headlights while in town because although my headlights are still legal height, they are annoying to other drivers when I am behind them.
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/13/13 11:36 AM
Trust me...I don't have cheap headlamps...I bought some of the most expensive Hella's out on the market. The light spread is exactly what its supposed to be. The lenses are ribbed and frosted. The HIDs have the block off plate on the bulb so as to not hit the others drivers in the eyes. When there are Lexus SUVs, Land Rovers, Hummers with HIDs and blinding everyone on the road...no one says anything....I drive around other cars which are low to the ground...buckets...
Posted By: Cheeto
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/13/13 10:44 PM
I was referring to aftermarket assemblies in general, not your Hellas specifically.
Having said that, your comments regarding "Mr Brakecheck" and "aimed at my knees at 20 feet" could very easily place you in the category I was talking about.
Put a stock headlight back in one side, face off to a wall at about 25' and 50' and compare where the light is hitting the wall between the two sides. Not exactly a technical solution but it will give you a good idea of what's going on.
Posted By: 471Magnum
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/14/13 01:27 AM
You're still not getting it (or you're just in denial). HID and incandescent lamps are completely different. The reflectors are not compatible (regardless of the price or quality of Hella lamp you utilizes...I'm guessing they are the vision plus ECE). It's an optical mismatch.
Take it from someone (me) who designed, tested, and manufactured OEM headlamps for several years (for a Hella subsidiary no less). There is a reason the HID retrofits are labeled "for off-highway use only". They do not meet FMVSS/DOT or ECE standards.
Here's the article that explains it all:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
Posted By: bdusted440
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/14/13 10:56 PM
I must just still be too young as the HIDs don't bother me at night!
I am a tech and Audi and MB gold certified as well as dodge and am trained in them, so they don't surprise me as I'm used to them. But the aftermarket only has one or two that are actually built for hid bulbs. But if they are aimed correctly they pose no problem. Incorrectly adjusted they will blind. And those are the only ones we remember. Kudos on the upgrade. And remember folks live and let live.
Posted By: feets
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/15/13 12:59 AM
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The HIDs have the block off plate on the bulb so as to not hit the others drivers in the eyes.
Plates on the bulbs don't help if the light is bouncing off the reflector and scattering through the lens.
What temperature bulb did you get? Something around 6500k is going to be ultra bright to others.
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/15/13 04:35 PM
I bought the 35w H4-3 bulbs rated at 6000k for my Hi-Los...I goofed and bought Sylvania H4 4000k which a more yellowy light but I checked it out the other day and the mix provides alot of light down the road....about 350 feet
Posted By: 2fast4yourBrain
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/15/13 05:31 PM
I bought used vehicles w/aftermarket HIDs.
Best color is 4300k. Anything higher is stupid.
I have fogs with 3000k. Can actually see better with those.
I don't recommend HIDs on High beams because of the constant on/off nature of high beams will reduce life of the HID bulb.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/15/13 06:27 PM
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LOL...look at all the haters. I'm with Pyper on this one. You all hate HIDs because YOU don't have them. as someone else has already pointed out, they are only annoying to other drivers if they are not adjusted correctly. We're in 2013 folks -- halogen bulbs with a 20 foot reach don't cut it any more. Get with the times...
No kidding, isn't it great that he puts up a thread about a modification he has done to his car that he drive IN GREECE and all he gets in return is 
Posted By: 69B3GT
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/15/13 07:22 PM
Got all the stuff to throw HIDs in the dart.
They wont be a blueish color but theyll be bright white just dont recall the number off the top of my head. If im not happy ill go back to the dim sealed beams.
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: WoW...Installed HIDs on the 69....AMAZING - 10/15/13 10:32 PM
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I bought used vehicles w/aftermarket HIDs.
Best color is 4300k. Anything higher is stupid.
I have fogs with 3000k. Can actually see better with those.
I don't recommend HIDs on High beams because of the constant on/off nature of high beams will reduce life of the HID bulb.
I just have the HIDs in the HiLo...the Hi Beams are just H4s with a relay harness feeding straight off the battery
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LOL...look at all the haters. I'm with Pyper on this one. You all hate HIDs because YOU don't have them. as someone else has already pointed out, they are only annoying to other drivers if they are not adjusted correctly. We're in 2013 folks -- halogen bulbs with a 20 foot reach don't cut it any more. Get with the times...
No kidding, isn't it great that he puts up a thread about a modification he has done to his car that he drive IN GREECE and all he gets in return is
I drive the car...mainly in the day time....I get about 750 miles per year on my car. Every now and then i will have to do a midnight run or taking a lady out for a night on the town...so i am sorry if my HIDs are blinding you from Eastern Europe.. hahahaha