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Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how?

Posted By: mantonas

Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 02:35 AM

I want to replace the water pump idler pulley on my big block because the bearings feel worn out. I bought a replacement from O'Reilly Auto Parts. When I looked up the part originally it was a Murray 45900 as shown on this link:

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail...7&ppt=C0331

But when I called to find out if they had it in stock, they told me it cross-referenced to a Gates 38038. So I bought it, and it looks like it might fit. But the old pulley has a threaded stud in it that I don't know how to remove, or even if it's removable. I tried tapping it out with a hammer but it didn't budge. Has anyone tried to replace one of these? Is it even removable? If it is, how do you get it out? See the attached pictures.
Posted By: mantonas

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 02:37 AM

Here are some pictures

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Posted By: mantonas

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 02:39 AM

Front of old and new pulleys

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Posted By: mantonas

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 02:40 AM

Back of old and new pulleys

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Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 06:39 AM

If you look closely at the old pulley you will see the tack welds holding the 2 cover plates on that protect the bearing ... notice I said WELDED , you are not going to get the threaded stud out by trying to tap it out without destroying something.
Posted By: jt4406

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 10:57 AM

JohnRR is right. The cover is welded in multiple places around the front of the pulley (that cover is visible when installed on the engine). I cut mine off thinking I could just replace the bearing. However after getting the cover off and the stud out (which you will also have to do), I discovered that the cover also serves to hold the bearing in the pulley. It is not a press fit and you would have to weld a cover back on to be able to use the original pulley.

jess
Posted By: mantonas

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 11:33 AM

Thanks for the info, I did not notice the weld.

It seems like the real irreplaceable part is the stud with the flat side to line up with the "D" shaped hole in the bracket. If you cut off the original pulley front cover and remove the stud, will it fit into the replacement pulley? Is it a shoulder bolt that press fits into the pulley and if so is it the right diameter?
Posted By: Kilrbee

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 01:35 PM

Mega Parts carries a very nice reproduction of these pulleys!!
Posted By: jt4406

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 05:53 PM

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If you cut off the original pulley front cover and remove the stud, will it fit into the replacement pulley




Yes, fits perfect, that is what I did. I also found a small suitable washer to serve as a guard for the bearing seal.


Jess
Posted By: therocks

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/20/13 05:56 PM

Most JY cars have idlers that have a large washer that was between the bolt and pulley.Then you just need the correct thread bolt.Rocky
Posted By: mantonas

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/22/13 12:37 AM

I know what a YJ car is (Jeep Wrangler), but what is a JY car?
Posted By: 1MYTGTX

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/22/13 12:46 AM

Quote:

Mega Parts carries a very nice reproduction of these pulleys!!




Link??
Posted By: bobby66

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/22/13 12:55 AM

Quote:

I know what a YJ car is (Jeep Wrangler), but what is a JY car?




JY=Junk Yard.
Posted By: mantonas

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/22/13 01:20 AM

I guess all cars are eventually JY cars.
Posted By: Ply72rr

Re: Replace big block water pump idler pulley - how? - 08/22/13 05:36 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Mega Parts carries a very nice reproduction of these pulleys!!




Link??



Mega Parts Pulley
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