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Carb Choice Street Engine 440

Posted By: domingo

Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 02:54 AM

Hi!

This is a street engine. Please help me on carb choice.

440 stock stroke
10,5:1 compression
MP 284° ,528" solid flat tappet MP cam
1 7/8" TTI headers
1.6 roller rockers
performer RPM intake
stealth heads unported
keilser 5 speed trans

I was thinking about using an edelbrock 800 AVS carb????

This is a street engine, not a race engine. Reliability, ease of manteinance and consistency is the main thing.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 03:23 AM

That would be a good choice for a street engine
Posted By: Roughbird72

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 05:20 AM

the Holley 3310(750 vac.) would also be a good carb for a street 440
Posted By: topbrent

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 07:04 AM

Holley Street Avenger 770 or 870.

Great street carb right out of the box.
Posted By: rebel

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 07:31 AM

go with the 'brock
Posted By: domingo

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 08:03 AM

Thanks for the advice. I will go with the brock 800 avs then.

Now on another note, I want to add a complete MSD ignition system.

What distributor and what ignition box would you use with this engine? opinions?
Posted By: rebel

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 08:22 AM

i use a Crane in my 'cuda. even when the battery is low it still kicks into life. my mates Charger with MSD dont do that.
Posted By: bobby66

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 01:53 PM

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the Holley 3310(750 vac.) would also be a good carb for a street 440



Or this. Pretty much the default carb for street hot rods.
Posted By: Commando1

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 02:04 PM

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Great street carb right out of the box.


No such animal from any manufacturer.
If it runs perfectly right out of the box, there's something wrong with the engine.
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 02:08 PM

AVS 800 is a good choice, may want a little stiffer metering rod spring (orange I think?) to bring the mains in a bit quicker on a 440. i run that carb on my 427 SBF cobra and it has worked flawlessly and has much better drivability and cleaner idle than any Holley I've ever run on a mild (if 511 hp is mild ) high torque street motor.

a 4779 750DP also works really well on a mild 440 with a pink cam and a 31 shooter
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 02:11 PM

Quote:

Thanks for the advice. I will go with the brock 800 avs then.

Now on another note, I want to add a complete MSD ignition system.

What distributor and what ignition box would you use with this engine? opinions?



Try getting a Firecore dist and see if you can get
a 6-al ignition... might try the Firecore coil also
JMO
Posted By: fbernard

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/13/13 04:44 PM

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Now on another note, I want to add a complete MSD ignition system.



Street engine? Whatever you pick, take a distributor with vacuum advance.
Posted By: Sledge_57

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/14/13 03:22 AM

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Now on another note, I want to add a complete MSD ignition system.



Street engine? Whatever you pick, take a distributor with vacuum advance.



I use MSD Pro Billet, 6Al and Blaster(2?) coil. No vacuum advance, lightest springs and whichever bushing gave the most initial advance, worked great, putting same setup in my 383...
Posted By: domingo

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/14/13 03:42 PM

What about spark plug choice for that engine???? Any suggestions?
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/14/13 04:17 PM

750DP....800 thunder is ok.
Posted By: 63stabamatic

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/16/13 11:44 AM

I run the 800cfm 1412 Eddy on a similar build, runs great. The stock 750 AVS Carter runs perfect on my 69 GTX, the AVS is a nice working carb, go for it.
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/16/13 12:43 PM

I'm going to be the odd man out and say THERMOQUAD!

;-)

Really is a great carb once you learn the tricks, I'm half temped to take the pair of AFB's off my tunnel ram and swap them for TQ's.

The 800 CFM Edelbrock Thunder AVS is a fine carb and strip kits are easy to purchase.
Posted By: 340SHORTY

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/16/13 01:46 PM

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I'm going to be the odd man out and say THERMOQUAD!

;-)

Really is a great carb once you learn the tricks, I'm half temped to take the pair of AFB's off my tunnel ram and swap them for TQ's.

The 800 CFM Edelbrock Thunder AVS is a fine carb and strip kits are easy to purchase.

IF you could find a good 1..

Go for the gusto, put 3 Holley 2300s on it..
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/16/13 02:16 PM

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IF you could find a good 1..

Go for the gusto, put 3 Holley 2300s on it..



Plenty of TQ's around, lack of strip kits are the issue for the average consumer. I just drill out or modify my own stuff.
Posted By: HP2

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/16/13 02:24 PM

Quote:

Thanks for the advice. I will go with the brock 800 avs then.

Now on another note, I want to add a complete MSD ignition system.

What distributor and what ignition box would you use with this engine? opinions?



Do NOT listen to people saying that you don't need a vacuum distributor on a street car. To keep your engine cold and to get good mileage you DO NEED VACUUM! Period.
Posted By: gdonovan

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/16/13 04:53 PM

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Do NOT listen to people saying that you don't need a vacuum distributor on a street car. To keep your engine cold and to get good mileage you DO NEED VACUUM! Period.



With a GTX that has been driven on the street with no vacuum advance since 1986 I would not totally agree with that statement. It gets very good mpg and never runs over 170 degrees.

Filled up both of the cars in the picture at the same time and went to the same cruise an hour away and back and the blue car gets better MPG than the brown one (which my wife was driving) which is stone stock aside from a touch more timing dialed in.

To be fair even though the cars have the same displacement, transmissions and final drive gear ratio the Blue GTX has a slightly taller tire, headers and a well tuned set of AFB's.

The blue car fires up and the timing pegs to 36-38 degrees and thats it. So its not impossible and vehicles will vary in what the like.

My Duster with a 5.9 magnum? Loves timing. At cruise its at 60 degrees!


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Posted By: Lefty

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/16/13 09:26 PM

For a stick shift the Quickfuel DP is hard to beat (pun intended)

http://www.quickfueltechnology.com/carbu...0-cfm-drag.html
Posted By: Pyper70

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/17/13 01:12 AM

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Now on another note, I want to add a complete MSD ignition system.



Street engine? Whatever you pick, take a distributor with vacuum advance.



I dunno...I am partial to the 6-AL, the timing advance knob, and the HEI style dizzy with mechanical timing. I run the black bushing which gives you 18º timing, dont ask me the color of springs but I am all in all the time with 34º at 2600rpm
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/17/13 03:28 AM

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I'm going to be the odd man out and say THERMOQUAD!

;-)

Really is a great carb once you learn the tricks, I'm half temped to take the pair of AFB's off my tunnel ram and swap them for TQ's.

The 800 CFM Edelbrock Thunder AVS is a fine carb and strip kits are easy to purchase.



No, I will be odd man out...I have a edelbrock/Q-Jet 750cfm thermobog replacment carb on my stock 440/RPM intake.

great carb for economy and performance, feeds the 440 with no problem,low speed throttle responce and drivabilty is as good or better than a well tuned thermobog carb.

the holley 650cfm spredbore thermobog replacment carb is a close 2nd on my stock 440.

q-jet beats it with throttle responce and mpg



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Posted By: bobby66

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/17/13 03:58 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I'm going to be the odd man out and say THERMOQUAD!

;-)

Really is a great carb once you learn the tricks, I'm half temped to take the pair of AFB's off my tunnel ram and swap them for TQ's.

The 800 CFM Edelbrock Thunder AVS is a fine carb and strip kits are easy to purchase.



No, I will be odd man out...I have a edelbrock/Q-Jet 750cfm thermobog replacment carb on my stock 440/RPM intake.

great carb for economy and performance, feeds the 440 with no problem,low speed throttle responce and drivabilty is as good or better than a well tuned thermobog carb.

the holley 650cfm spredbore thermobog replacment carb is a close 2nd on my stock 440.

q-jet beats it with throttle responce and mpg





Interesting choice. Didn't Mopar use Quadrajets for a few years after they gave up on the Thermoquads?
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/17/13 04:14 PM

Quote:

Hi!

This is a street engine. Please help me on carb choice.

440 stock stroke
10,5:1 compression
MP 284° ,528" solid flat tappet MP cam
1 7/8" TTI headers
1.6 roller rockers
performer RPM intake
stealth heads unported
keilser 5 speed trans

I was thinking about using an edelbrock 800 AVS carb????

This is a street engine, not a race engine. Reliability, ease of manteinance and consistency is the main thing.



I would run a edelbrock carb if last carb ever!! pour gas out bottle first!! JMO!
Find a good avs, or quadrajet, or go with efi!! get it tuned ,
As for MSD ,It is street, do not wast your money,!!
Put a stock chrysler box on it,stock dizzy,get timing @34-36deg,
Posted By: kilroy

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/19/13 02:02 AM

Thermoquad Thermoquad Thermoquad
Posted By: landon1

Re: Carb Choice Street Engine 440 - 08/21/13 12:25 AM

I'm a fan of double pumpers. I have a 650DP on my street 440 (Comp XE268 cam, headers, electronic ignition, rotating assembly basically stock. Went with a 650 based on Holley's website.
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