Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body,

Posted By: cudabitten

Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/09/13 06:22 PM

I bought Summit Headers back in December and now getting ready to install and checked the Summit site one more time and find out that they will not work with power steering with my 74 cuda. I guess I overlooked the footnote when ordering. Anyway, they will charge 10% restocking fee and I pay for return shipping. Summit advertises other headers without that footnote, how accurate is thier site? Can I get away with using the ones I have? If I order another pair, might I still have issues with fit even tho there are no footnote warnings?

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/09/13 06:27 PM

I have seen plenty of heeaders on e-bodys with PS so they do make a set. yes I would see if you could swap them for a correct e-body pair with PS

i know I have had to ding/hammer a few sets on A-bodys with power which is way tighter than an e-body engine bay.

you may re-coop more of the $ back just listing them here on moparts in the for sale section listed as new/un-used for e-body.

maybe better than taking a hit for restocking/shipping.

Posted By: roe

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 02:31 AM

Try talking to customer service, let them know that you made a honest mistake and would like to get the correct ones from them. Maybe they can work with you and waive one of the fees since you still plan on getting the other set from them. Or they can charge you both fees and lose out on the the rest of the money from the purchase if you were to purchase elsewhere. I think they would like to work it in the way that the company gets the most money. It may work

Posted By: m88mark

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 04:48 AM

I've had to ding left RB Hedman, torsionbar area, depends on size of bar & motor mount condition or lack of. Just something to watch.

Posted By: patrick

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 12:32 PM

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I bought Summit Headers back in December and now getting ready to install and checked the Summit site one more time and find out that they will not work with power steering with my 74 cuda. I guess I overlooked the footnote when ordering. Anyway, they will charge 10% restocking fee and I pay for return shipping. Summit advertises other headers without that footnote, how accurate is thier site? Can I get away with using the ones I have? If I order another pair, might I still have issues with fit even tho there are no footnote warnings?

what part number do you have?
these?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g9040

they're what I used on my 5th ave WITH power steering, and fit great, no dinging required.

Posted By: Mapandjlp

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 12:43 PM

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what part number do you have?
these?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g9040

they're what I used on my 5th ave WITH power steering, and fit great, no dinging required.

I've got these on my '70 Challenger with PS. No problem, even when I had the column shifter. If these are the part number you've got, you're golden.

Posted By: viperblue72

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 01:17 PM

Chances are if you tell us your combo and which headers, somebody on here could tell you if they fit, and or what issues they ran into.
Most headers aren't a direct fit without putting some dents in.

Posted By: cudabitten

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 01:29 PM

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I bought Summit Headers back in December and now getting ready to install and checked the Summit site one more time and find out that they will not work with power steering with my 74 cuda. I guess I overlooked the footnote when ordering. Anyway, they will charge 10% restocking fee and I pay for return shipping. Summit advertises other headers without that footnote, how accurate is thier site? Can I get away with using the ones I have? If I order another pair, might I still have issues with fit even tho there are no footnote warnings?

what part number do you have?
these?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g9040

they're what I used on my 5th ave WITH power steering, and fit great, no dinging required.

Yes, Patrick, these are the set that I purchased. Ok, I see the other reponse from the 70 challenger guy too. I will keep these for now, as I have my exhaust coming maybe today from summit, plus my flex plate,etc... Then I can drop in the engine and spend probably a lot of time installing the headers and exhaust. Thanks Guys, I was getting ready to spray paint these headers and thought I would check out the site again because for some reason the box they came in says B Body 67-79 316-360. Yeah 316?I called Summit when I first recieved them, and they said thats just how they marked the box...
Also, I did try and work with customer service, but no dice.

Its a 74 e-body 360, automatic, power steering, for viper.

Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 01:41 PM

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Chances are if you tell us your combo and which headers, somebody on here could tell you if they fit, and or what issues they ran into.
Most headers aren't a direct fit without putting some dents in.

I don't know about that. I've installed many sets of headers, including a few summit kits big and small bloack and have yet had to

any. including the Hooker 2" super-comps I have on now. You just have to take your time and move some thing out of the way.

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 01:54 PM

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Chances are if you tell us your combo and which headers, somebody on here could tell you if they fit, and or what issues they ran into.
Most headers aren't a direct fit without putting some dents in.

I don't know about that. I've installed many sets of headers, including a few summit kits big and small bloack and have yet had to any. including the Hooker 2" super-comps I have on now. You just have to take your time and move some thing out of the way.

Yea me too, I have installed like 6 set's of headers over the years and have never had to dent a tube.

Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 03:04 PM

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Chances are if you tell us your combo and which headers, somebody on here could tell you if they fit, and or what issues they ran into.
Most headers aren't a direct fit without putting some dents in.

I don't know about that. I've installed many sets of headers, including a few summit kits big and small bloack and have yet had to any. including the Hooker 2" super-comps I have on now. You just have to take your time and move some thing out of the way.

Yea me too, I have installed like 6 set's of headers over the years and have never had to dent a tube.

I got a new set of the cheap flowtech for a 85 2x & 4x4 truck,I had to beat #1 tube almost flat in the first 1.5 foot of the tube and still never got it to fit in the 85 2x truck.

when I called they told be "you have to maybe ding it a little"...yea right. 125$ door stops.

now the hedman truck header fits graet with no jacking/dinging and allow starter R&R with out removal of headers.

you get what you pay for some times..I should have spent the 200$ first time around instead of 325$ on headers.

Posted By: TC@HP2

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 04:16 PM

Those will fit power steering just fine. That design is the most generic small block mopar offering out there and is the same one sold by Headman, Blackjack, or any other budget priced offering.

You will, however, need to drop the steering link off the pitman arm to get them in.

Posted By: Paul_Fancsali

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/10/13 08:26 PM

Take one sledge hammer and be prepared to pound them I had one set of coated ones that were so screwed up that I cut them off the car when they got jammed between the inner fender and the block Patience you need grasshopper esp when installing headers. By the way get some small headed bolts you will need them on number 1 and seven clylinder

Posted By: cudabitten

Re: Before I send back my Summit headers...E-body, - 06/17/13 05:46 PM

Hey, just an update about these headers from Summit. They went in pretty well, it took a lot of patience and I did scrape the paint off the oil pan edges and the headers in some places. I hope it is worth it in the end. I did not have to use a hammer to dent any pipes, and they look really cool so far. Thanks again to Patrick for specing them out for me.