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Doesn't make any difference on the spring being out. I never used a blocker rod.. until recently when I rebuilt the 518 for my truck.
Don't see any difference still
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It didn't come with a spring when it was dropped off to me & no blocker rod either so unless someone persuades me ASAP to make a blocker rod or add the spring (I have a parts 904 belly up & it's spring looks like a good fit) I'll go ahead & install the VB/pan this afternoon & send er out the door.
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Much firmer shift without the spring. Ron
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John I am heading outside to the garage. Should I USE or NOT USE the spring
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Much firmer shift without the spring. Ron
Oldest myth in the Mopar world....the spring has no affect on any upshifts.
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It didn't come with a spring when it was dropped off to me & no blocker rod either so unless someone persuades me ASAP to make a blocker rod or add the spring (I have a parts 904 belly up & it's spring looks like a good fit) I'll go ahead & install the VB/pan this afternoon & send er out the door.
Put in the spring , the main purpose is to dampen the trans when it's put into 1st or drive , firmer shifts are a placibo effect from the shift kit ...
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I disagee. I have taken and blocked the accumulator piston from moving with manual valve bodies and get a much harder 1-2 shift.
Quote:Yeah you're the only one. I'm thinking that the unknown builder who put this together left the spring out for a reason otherwise it would have been in there but he may not have the expertise that we collectively have here so I figured it was definitely worth an interuption to find out & at the moment I have a 904 belly up & the spring looked like a good fit & I could have cut a blocker from something & iirc PVC pipe was mentioned once all at additional cost to the customer of course
Am I the only one that feels that it is a little odd that the OP is working on a customer's transmission, and he is on here asking about the accumulator spring?
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That was a low shot!
This forum is all about asking questions no matter how much experience one has. He was not 100% sure so he asked the question. That is smart in my book.
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I disagee. I have taken and blocked the accumulator piston from moving with manual valve bodies and get a much harder 1-2 shift.
Blocking the accumulator piston and merely removing the spring are two entirely different things. My comment was in reply to your comment "Much firmer shift without the spring"...you failed to mention the addition of the blocker rod in that statement.
The myth is that simply removing the spring will firm the shift...not so.
Quote:Here's my point, We're on here solely to offer opinions to solve an OP's issue at hand. Your first post offered nothing toward that end & only complained how I was handling this job & you asked if you were "the only one" & yes you were "the only one" who had nothing constructive to offer but wanted to complain about my MO on this job. Sorry you're having a bad day but dont take it out on us & definitely dont take it out on me & if you read thru all of my posts on this thread I believe I am doing exactly what I am supposed to be doing correctly in regard to this project (& yes it is a friend). The answer to your bad day lies within not outward
I think you're missing the point. I have no problem with amateurs asking amateurs and/or professionals questions when someone is working on their stuff or a friends stuff, but he is being paid.
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Am I the only one that feels that it is a little odd that the OP is working on a customer's transmission, and he is on here asking about the accumulator spring?
i thought that also,but hey its not my car
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four.. it's moparts
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With all the different opinions here keep in mind that..
one.. it doesn't hurt the tranny being left out.
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two.. shifting harder maybe, maybe not but doesn't do a darn thing for et or otherwise.
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People are really questioning JK on this?
JK is the man
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I do not use the accumulator spring in rebuilds, street or otherwise.
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With it's deletion do you use a blocker rod?
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With all the different opinions here keep in mind that..
one.. it doesn't hurt the tranny being left out.
two.. shifting harder maybe, maybe not but doesn't do a darn thing for et or otherwise.
three.. you don't have to mess with fabbing a blocker rod.
four.. it's moparts
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I have been building TF's since 1972. I do not use the accumulator spring in rebuilds, street or otherwise. No Belleville spring failure ever.
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Yep, the piston is thicker....early is about .780" and the late is about .830.