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How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model

Posted By: frank

How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/24/08 10:51 PM

1969 GTX. How do you determin if car is a coupe or a 2 door sedan model?
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/24/08 10:55 PM

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1969 GTX. How do you determin if car is a coupe or a 2 door sedan model?





Any 69 GTX with a roof will be a hardrop, the rear windows will roll down and no post
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/24/08 11:00 PM

3RD AND 4th digits of the vin
21 is a 2 dr sedan
23 is a 2 dr hardtop
27 is a convertible
29 is a 2dr sports hardtop(baracuda)
I hope this helps
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/24/08 11:07 PM

A coupe and a sedan are generally considered to be the same thing.

I think you may be thinking of a 2 door hard top as compared to a 2 door sedan? If so, as mentioned above, the VIN will tell you which one is which.

RL21 = R:Plymouth L: Low Line 21:2 door Sedan
RS23 = R:Plymouth S: Special 23:2 door Hard Top
Posted By: frank

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/24/08 11:13 PM

Thanks. I'm trying to order parts from year one and they list coup and sedan. Do you know if year one considers a hardtop a coupe?
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/24/08 11:16 PM

Just tell them if your car has a pillar post between the front and rear side glass or not. All Sedans had them.
Posted By: frank

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/24/08 11:28 PM

APPRECIATE ALL THE GOOD INFO. THANKS

Posted By: itali83

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/24/08 11:43 PM

Can't get any easier than this. Sedan = pop out rear windows Hardtop/coupe = roll down rear windows
Posted By: formula_s

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 12:24 AM

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Can't get any easier than this. Sedan = pop out rear windows Hardtop/coupe = roll down rear windows




The rear windows in my 75 Coronet hardtop, WH23 didn't roll down.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 12:39 AM

I''m still confused Are coupes/sedan the same(both have a post)
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 12:57 AM

It depends on the manufaturer, but I have always thought a sedan and a post car were the same thing, and a hardtop and a coupe were the same!
Posted By: DZJim

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 01:28 AM

http://www.carnut.com/photo/list/ply/ply48.html

The way it was. Later on, when the so-called hardtop convertible was marketed, the two-door would be called a "sport coupe". "Sedans" would have pillars between the doors, or doors and rear windows. There were four door hardtops too. I had a '69 Ford LTD 4 dr hardtop. Roll all of the windows down, and it was wide open on each side. http://www.ssb7.net/users//26142/69fordltd4door.jpg


My $0.02
Posted By: SomeCarGuy

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 01:30 AM

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Can't get any easier than this. Sedan = pop out rear windows Hardtop/coupe = roll down rear windows





"Post coupe" is usually what I hear, and have said myself coupe for cars with a post for years. Windows pop out. RM21

Hardtop has no pillar, roll down windows. RM23
Have seen/heard it called pillarless hardtop.
Posted By: itali83

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 01:52 AM

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Can't get any easier than this. Sedan = pop out rear windows Hardtop/coupe = roll down rear windows





"Post coupe" is usually what I hear, and have said myself coupe for cars with a post for years. Windows pop out. RM21

Hardtop has no pillar, roll down windows. RM23
Have seen/heard it called pillarless hardtop.



I said this in response to him having a '69 B-body. I wasn't clear about that. I know 68-69 B-bodys hardtop= roll down rear windows and sedan= post with popout windows.
Posted By: SomeCarGuy

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:48 AM

That is what I'm talking about also, a '69.
Posted By: moparmarks

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 01:08 PM

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It depends on the manufaturer, but I have always thought a sedan and a post car were the same thing, and a hardtop and a coupe were the same!




Posted By: Junky

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 02:46 PM

Growing up as a kid (I'm old) a 2 door with no post was a hardtop, 2 door with a post a coupe, 4 door with a post a sedan. 4 doors without a post was cool. Most everyone I know goes by this too.
Posted By: RodStRace

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 02:59 PM


Post = sedan
roll all the windows sown and you can sweep your arm from the windshield to the rear roof post = hardtop.
The problem is that the automakers built different cars over the years, so the rules got blurred.
In your specific case (1969 B body), the VIN will tell you what you have and will be easier to pass along to year one for ordering.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:05 PM

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Growing up as a kid (I'm old) a 2 door with no post was a hardtop, 2 door with a post a coupe, 4 door with a post a sedan. 4 doors without a post was cool. Most everyone I know goes by this too.




I agree with this. Also the 4 door without a post can obviously be called a hardtop, or a "4 door hardtop" An example would be a Buick Electra 225.

Only problem is that there is no "2 door sedan" in the above definition, which many people would say in a post car, if the rear 1/4 windows roll down its a sedan, if they don't (or they just pop out) like a Volare/Aspen its a coupe, but thats kind of a fine distinction.
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:33 PM

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It depends on the manufaturer, but I have always thought a sedan and a post car were the same thing, and a hardtop and a coupe were the same!









Not correct.... A hardtop has no B-Pillar. A Coupe has a B-Pillar (post).

The line between a 2-dr sedan (post) and a coupe gets blurry, I tend to differetiate between posts & coupes as: A coupe has almost no rear window (E body cudas & Challengers are coupes), while a post has a roll down or pop out, larger rear window (roadrunner)

One things for sure, there is no hard fast rule with coupes vs. posts vs. 2-dr Sedans. These are all basically the same.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:36 PM

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It depends on the manufaturer, but I have always thought a sedan and a post car were the same thing, and a hardtop and a coupe were the same!









thats how Ive always been told. coupes were hardtops (no post). furthermore, coupes had smaller interiors than sedans. Sedans were big while coupes were small (think of the coupes in american graffiti- they had small cramped interiors)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:39 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9

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Coupés are often hardtopped sports cars or sporty variants of sedan (also known as saloon — see American and British English spelling differences) body styles, with doors commonly reduced from 4 to 2, and a close-coupled interior (i.e. the rear seat placed further forward than in a standard sedan) offering either two seats or 2+2 seating (space for two passengers in the front and two occasional passengers or children in the rear).

Alternatively, a coupé is distinguished from a two-door sedan by the lack of a "B" pillar to support the roof. Sedans have an "A" pillar forward at the windscreen, a "B" pillar aft of the door, and a "C" pillar defining the aftermost roof support at the rear window. Thus with all side-windows down, a coupé would appear windowless from the "A" to the "C" pillars. These fixed-roof models are described as a hardtop. Targa top models are a variation on the convertible design.



Posted By: Anonymous

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:43 PM

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-a-coupe-and-a-sedan.htm

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sedan has little to do with doors and are made clear by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), which standardizes definitions of the different types of cars on the market. Measurements of a coupe and a sedan are as follows:


Coupe equals less than 33 cubic feet (.934 cubic m). Sedan is equal to or greater than 33 cubic feet.


Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:43 PM

1967 Belvedere II Hard Top (RH23XXXXXX)

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:43 PM

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1967 Belvedere II Hard Top




huge interior- seats about 20
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:45 PM

1967 Belvedere I Sedan/Coupe (VIN# RL21XXXXXXX)

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Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:47 PM

Another Angle: 1967 Belvedere II Hard Top

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Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model - 11/25/08 03:47 PM

1967 Belvedere I Sedan/Coupe

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