Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons?

Posted By: Chilort

Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 05:19 PM

I am thinking of getting an aluminum big block water pump housing.

It looks like there are 3 options:
Mopar for $180 at Summit,
Sumit's house brand for $145, and
440Source for $65.

Needless to say, there is a pretty big price difference between these water pump housings.

I remember a few years back that people were having trouble with the 440Source housings because the passages were too small. Is that still the case or did they fix the problem? What about Summit's house brand? Or is this another case where I need to buy original and just take the punishment to my wallet?

Posted By: frank

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 05:25 PM

The 440 source housing water temp probe location is on the drivers side of the housing (at least mine is) May be an issue with stock wire harness. Maybe new housings have location on passenger side??

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 05:28 PM

I use a source housing. The issue comes down to using a good water pump whose impeller comes CLOSE to the housing but still clearances. And spin the pump at the right speed (right pulley diameters). Don't buy sources pump with the cast impeller...it's garbage IMO

If the rest of the system is up to par, radiator,fan,shroud etc, you'll be fine

Posted By: Chilort

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 05:36 PM

I am using both a Milodon high flow pump and high flow t-stat. I use stock '68 pulleys.

I have seen the threads on checking the clearance. I will do that when I put this thing together again for sure!

Posted By: Chilort

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 05:46 PM

Has anyone gone to work with their sanding roles to open up the 440Source housing? Time is money though.

Posted By: fuseable

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 06:18 PM

Watch the E-Bag, I was able to pick up a new Mopar housing for 100.00.

Posted By: astjp2

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 08:57 PM

I found a mopar pump and housing on the bag for $186. There are deals if you are patient.

Posted By: DANA60

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 10:50 PM

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The 440 source housing water temp probe location is on the drivers side of the housing (at least mine is) May be an issue with stock wire harness. Maybe new housings have location on passenger side??

Me too on the temp sender. You'll have to splice wire in to make it longer.

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Posted By: BSB67

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 11:38 PM

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The 440 source housing water temp probe location is on the drivers side of the housing (at least mine is) May be an issue with stock wire harness. Maybe new housings have location on passenger side??

Me too on the temp sender. You'll have to splice wire in to make it longer.

Or simply drill and tap the housing on the passenger side.

Posted By: BEINGmeISaCRIME

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 11:45 PM

I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good.

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html

Also reasonably priced

Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/02/13 11:51 PM

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I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good.

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html

Also reasonably priced

I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck

Gus

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Posted By: BEINGmeISaCRIME

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 12:34 AM

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I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good.

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html

Also reasonably priced

I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck

Gus

I got the same package, on my engine I've only had dyno time but the chrome thermostat housing hasn't leaked *yet* I prolly also shouldn't say chrome since I have since elminated the chrome and painted it hemi orange.

Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 01:26 AM

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Don't buy sources pump with the cast impeller...it's garbage IMO

I have a new pump with the "scroll" impeller with the curved blades & I think it has CAT cast into the body. Is that the bad one?

Posted By: Sinitro

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 02:03 AM

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I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good.

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html

Also reasonably priced

I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck

Gus

I got the same package, on my engine I've only had dyno time but the chrome thermostat housing hasn't leaked *yet* I prolly also shouldn't say chrome since I have since elminated the chrome and painted it hemi orange.

That chrome one is a junker and will leak..
Go to Napa ask for #BK 6051051, its like $6 is cast like the OE one...

Just my $0.02...

Posted By: Sinitro

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 02:04 AM

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Don't buy sources pump with the cast impeller...it's garbage IMO

I have a new pump with the "scroll" impeller with the curved blades & I think it has CAT cast into the body. Is that the bad one?

Dump those and get the one from Mancini...

Just my $0.02...

Posted By: Chilort

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 02:18 AM

Some information I just received from off the board suggests the CAT housing and 440Source housing are similar. I've never held them in my hands so I will admit I am going by hearsay.

I have also been told the Mancini part, which I had forgotten about, is good. That price looks great too.

Both the CAT and 440Source housings can be opened up.

Posted By: BEINGmeISaCRIME

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 04:15 AM

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I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good.

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html

Also reasonably priced

I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck

Gus

I got the same package, on my engine I've only had dyno time but the chrome thermostat housing hasn't leaked *yet* I prolly also shouldn't say chrome since I have since elminated the chrome and painted it hemi orange.

That chrome one is a junker and will leak..
Go to Napa ask for #BK 6051051, its like $6 is cast like the OE one...

Just my $0.02...

OR I could always go this route

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabialwane.html

Posted By: Chilort

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 04:22 AM

I used the chrome neck from Mopar before. I have one word: junk.

Anything but that POS is an improvement.

Posted By: rowin4

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 04:48 AM

I bought the 440 Source aluminum housing and pump years ago , never had a problem with over heating, bolted on with no problems. Use a after market gage so I don't know about the sensor location problem if there really is one.

Posted By: 383man

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? - 02/03/13 05:49 AM

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I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good.

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html

Also reasonably priced

I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck

Gus

Same hear as Mancini told me it was their parts but it looks just like the MP without the MP emblem on it. And yes the chrome thermo housing leaked and is junk. I just used my old housing as I painted it all Max Wedge orange.

Ron