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Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can

Posted By: 70 Roadrunner*

Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 02:41 PM




I'm looking for one of these to put onto my 383 N-96 hooded car...I'm just wondering how rare or how hard to find is this aluminum intake or where I might start looking.
Posted By: Dan Halen

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 02:43 PM

DP4B= dual plane 4 barrel,

easy to find, don't pay more than $75.
Posted By: 70 Roadrunner*

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 02:46 PM

No more than 70$...thanks for the advice.I've been reading that they are still a good intake and with my air grabber hood I'm limited by height...this site has helped a new guy like myself big-time!
Posted By: Dcuda69

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 02:46 PM

I sold one for $100 just last year at a local swap meet....I thought I priced it to cheap as it sold 5 minutes after putting it out?
Posted By: 70 Roadrunner*

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 02:48 PM

I figured they were a bit hard to find so 100$ wouldn't have been to nuts...the hunt is on
Posted By: bee1971

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 02:52 PM

Ebay !!!

They pop up every once in awhile - But look for stripped threads or heli coils on the carb mounting threads , to find a mint one might bee a stretch and then of course cost


I guess i dont understand everyones dedication with these intakes when they only put out at best , maybe and i mean maybe a few more hp then the newer Edelbrock Performer Intake

Of course the Performer RPM is a different animal but hood clearance always comes into play
Posted By: Dan Halen

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 02:54 PM

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I figured they were a bit hard to find so 100$ wouldn't have been to nuts...the hunt is on




If you already have a stock late 60's-early'70's 4bbl. intake, the

DP4B will not make your car faster. I've been there done that 30yrs

ago.
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 03:09 PM

you might look at an weiand action plus intake. its old skool like the dp4b but a little more performance same hieght as a stocker/dp4b from the looks of it.

i run one on my stock 78 440 with a 600 carb, kinda going opposite of you though,i am looking to poke one thru the hood.

another option might be a old skool holley street/strip dominator,they are a low rise single plane,spredbore intake that works rather well on the street for a single plane intake,IMO.

Attached picture 7301698-440alumintake.jpg
Posted By: tboomer

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 03:11 PM

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another option might be a old skool holley street/strip dominator,they are a low rise single plane,spredbore intake that works rather well on the street for a single plane intake,IMO.


What Scratchy says!! Much better intake!!
Posted By: CarelianCuda

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 03:32 PM

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DP4B= dual plane 4 barrel,

easy to find, don't pay more than $75.



Actually it's Dodge Plymouth 4 Barrel (for 383-400) and CH4B is Chrysler 4 barrel (for 413-440).

Not bad at all by test results:
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/hrdp_0712_mopar_intake_manifold_comparo/viewall.html
Posted By: Dan Halen

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 03:32 PM

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another option might be a old skool holley street/strip dominator,they are a low rise single plane,spredbore intake that works rather well on the street for a single plane intake,IMO.


What Scratchy says!! Much better intake!!




Yep! I use the Holley on the 383 I just built for my ride.



Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 03:39 PM

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another option might be a old skool holley street/strip dominator,they are a low rise single plane,spredbore intake that works rather well on the street for a single plane intake,IMO.


What Scratchy says!! Much better intake!!




Yep! I use the Holley on the 383 I just built for my ride.








This intake won't fit under his N96 hood without cobbling up an expensive air cleaner, so even though its a better intake it's not fitting his criteria. One advantage the DP4B has over the stock iron itake , it's 20lbs lighter.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 04:22 PM

I'm looking for a DP4B for my 70 D100, I want it instead of the Performer or SD (which I have) strictly because I want the truck to look as it would have in 1970. I agree on the $75-$100, I'm waiting for one at a swap meet so I don't have to pay the shipping/border fees.

Sheldon
Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 05:17 PM

I used on on my 69 Runner back in the day that was other wise completely stock and it made pretty noticeable difference in ET and MPH.
Posted By: dart1962_440

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 06:00 PM

I heard the DP4B is taller than a stock 4bbl intake - is this correct? Anyone have the heights of the various intakes being discussed above?
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 06:37 PM

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I heard the DP4B is taller than a stock 4bbl intake - is this correct? Anyone have the heights of the various intakes being discussed above?




If it's taller it in not by much as I used it on a 383 in my 1969
Superbee with N96 hood and a factory air cleaner assembly that was not modified in anyway, no problems.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 07:13 PM

I agree the DP4B is better than stock, more so than the Performer.

Sheldon
Posted By: BSB67

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/21/12 09:20 PM

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I heard the DP4B is taller than a stock 4bbl intake - is this correct? Anyone have the heights of the various intakes being discussed above?




About 0.4"



Attached picture 7302034-StockvsDP4B.JPG
Posted By: 70 Roadrunner*

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/22/12 06:18 AM

A few of my reasons to go to this manifold is yes,it's aluminum and much lighter than the cast iron stock manifold.Further it accepts a square bore carb if I'm not mistaken and this will allow me to run a Holley 750 DP carb.It probably has a bit better performance than the stock manifold.Lastly it will fit with my N-96 Air Grabber hood...if I'm wrong someone please tell me.If there's a better manifold that will fit my car I'll go with that but from what I've been able to determine the Dp4b intake will cut weight and improve performance...it's a start
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/22/12 06:31 AM

You've got it all right. I agree with all the reasons you stated.

Sheldon
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/22/12 03:23 PM

It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/22/12 03:53 PM

I ran one for years on my 383 GTS and it performed MUCH better even with the stock exhaust manifolds. I ground off the Edelbrock and DP4B designations but left the casting number and painted it to look stock...
Posted By: Dodgem

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/22/12 04:16 PM

part 2
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/hrdp_0801_mopar_intake_manifolds/viewall.html

any body have the 440 intake links?
Posted By: dart1962_440

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/22/12 06:42 PM

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I heard the DP4B is taller than a stock 4bbl intake - is this correct? Anyone have the heights of the various intakes being discussed above?




About 0.4"






Anyone have a height comparison including an Edelbrock Performer?
Posted By: BSB67

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/22/12 09:09 PM

The Performer is within 0.1" of the DP4B
Posted By: dart1962_440

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/22/12 09:29 PM

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The Performer is within 0.1" of the DP4B




Thanks! I have a Performer and want to switch over to a DP4B on an air grabber car.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/23/12 12:38 AM

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It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)




Jeff what intake are you talking about here ?
Posted By: bee1971

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/23/12 01:49 AM

1# difference in Torque
6 HP

Nothing you will feel/notice at the track , definetly not on the street especially on a mild build 383

Waste of time switching between the two intakes - Stick with the Perfomer



Edelbrock Dp4b
Surprise! The oldest design produced the best average power of the dual-planes-of course we're only talking 1-3 numbers better, and that can be testing variance, but still, this thing wasn't at all bad. It's the first of the Mopar aftermarket dual-planes but has not been sold in many years. The DP4B designation means Dodge-Plymouth 4-Barrel, and the C4B (Chrysler 4-Barrel) is for 440s. This intake is most like the stock design, with the smaller of the two planes on the right side and feeding cylinders 2, 3, 5, and 8. The coil bracket is not in the stock location, but even so, many people who want an OE look use this manifold.

Price: Ours was $104.39 on eBay, but maybe the price will jump now.




Manifold height:

front 311/44, rear 411/48



Peak torque:

456 lb-ft @ 3,800



Peak horsepower:

445 hp @ 5,900



Power at 3,000 rpm:

419 lb-ft, 239 hp



Power at 5,000 rpm:

431 lb-ft, 410 hp



Average 2,500-4,500:

429 lb-ft, 289 hp



Average 4,500-6,000:

419 lb-ft, 417 hp



Average 2,500-6,000:

424 lb-ft, 344 hp





Edelbrock Performer 383
The Performer is the world's most ubiquitous intake manifold; you can order one from virtually any auto-parts chain. The Performer 383 (PN 2186) is a stock replacement part that's emissions legal for many OE four-barrel applications, and it has provisions for an EGR valve. Its carb pad will accept square-bore or spread-bore carbs. The Edelbrock Performer Package recommended for this intake includes a cam with just 204/214 at 0.050, demonstrating that our 237/242 solid cam is a little too big to match the ideal operating range of this and other low-rise dual-planes in this test.

Price: The satin PN 2186 intake is $189.98 at Summit Racing; a polished version, PN 21861, is $359.88




Manifold height:

front 331/48, rear 411/44



Peak torque:

455 lb-ft @ 3,800



Peak horsepower:

439 hp @ 5,900



Power at 3,000 rpm:

418 lb-ft, 239 hp



Power at 5,000 rpm:

426 lb-ft, 406 hp



Average 2,500-4,500:

427 lb-ft, 288 hp



Average 4,500-6,000:

415 lb-ft, 413 hp



Average 2,500-6,000:

422 lb-ft, 341 hp



Read more: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/hrdp_...l#ixzz21OzHWOFS
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/23/12 01:33 PM

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It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)




Jeff what intake are you talking about here ?




I like the all of them. They are a good intake for a mild build. The one I sold for $225 was a 318 LD intake.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/23/12 02:39 PM

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It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)




Jeff what intake are you talking about here ?




I like the all of them. They are a good intake for a mild build. The one I sold for $225 was a 318 LD intake.




Ok I thought you were actually answering the OPs question , my bad .
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/23/12 04:08 PM

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It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)




Jeff what intake are you talking about here ?




I like the all of them. They are a good intake for a mild build. The one I sold for $225 was a 318 LD intake.




Ok I thought you were actually answering the OPs question , my bad .




John ,just commenting on some incorrect information. So to his question... No they are not hard to find and I think I answered the cost question... $75-125 depending on shape.
Posted By: SuperRob

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 07/23/12 05:06 PM

I installed a DP4B on my 383 N96 car last weekend. First impression is good compared to the original intake. Now my 650 Edelbrock AVS will need some more tuning, as the engine hesitates when you floor it, which it didn't with the stock intake.
Posted By: Slant6pak

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 09/21/12 05:47 PM

I have a question for those who have added a DP4B to an N96 car.

Did you swap aircleaners? I've read when adding the intake to a 383 you must use the 340/440 baseplate to gain the needed clearance.

My car is a 71' and not a factory Air Grabber car, I am adding it and already have a DP4B but no AG parts.

I'm hoping to figure out exactly what I need before I singe the credit card a bit ordering all the hood parts.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 09/21/12 08:09 PM

I put a DP4B on my 69 Superbee with N96 using the 383 air cleaner , fit fine , the intake isn't a whole lot taller.
Posted By: furious70

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 09/21/12 09:21 PM

Since the Holley SD was brought up, I'll comment that my personal experience with it on a magnum spec 383 in a heavy car was very poor. I used it cuz the a/c brackets fit it, but I lost a lot of tq. No empirical test, but same car, same engine, same carb, same tires, same stretch of road: with stock intake and 3.23 gears it would light them up from an idle. With the SD and 3.91's it would only squawk them from an idle.

The artical linked shows it's down on tq at 3000rpm, from my own testing from idle it's waaaaay down. perf rpm and efi gave a better response than either above.
Posted By: SuperRob

Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can - 09/25/12 02:13 PM

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I put a DP4B on my 69 Superbee with N96 using the 383 air cleaner , fit fine , the intake isn't a whole lot taller.



Same here on a 70 Bee.
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