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MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB????

Posted By: oldsklharo

MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/08/12 02:56 PM

Is there a way to modify the MSD E-Curve SB dist so it can be used in a BB 383? Is there an adapter or kit of some kind that takes a SB dist to a BB compatable? I know you can use the spacer set up to go from the RB to B's but what about from SB to BB?

I really like that E-Curve dist but they don't make one for the B motors!!

Thanks, Mike
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/08/12 03:12 PM

Smallblock is very close in size to a 440 distributor but it is designed to spin in the opposite direction so the problem would be wit hthe mechanical advance. I'd have to see one to see if parts could be changed around.

But I agree , they should be making these for BB 's
Posted By: oldsklharo

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/08/12 03:42 PM

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Smallblock is very close in size to a 440 distributor but it is designed to spin in the opposite direction so the problem would be wit hthe mechanical advance. I'd have to see one to see if parts could be changed around.

But I agree , they should be making these for BB 's



Damn, sounds like it's to likely to make one work

I spoke to MSD this morning........ I assume they are making them for the race guys that mainly run SB Chrysler.

Are there any other brands that are making a digital dist for the BB?
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/08/12 05:01 PM

I really like the E-Curve in my 416 small block.

But be warned. Do not use that distributor with the new MSD solid state coils. They do not work together. You have to run a oil filled blaster type coil per MSD as SEMA. Learned that the hard way.
Posted By: Troy

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/08/12 08:14 PM

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I really like the E-Curve in my 416 small block.

But be warned. Do not use that distributor with the new MSD solid state coils. They do not work together. You have to run a oil filled blaster type coil per MSD as SEMA. Learned that the hard way.



Posted By: AndyF

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/09/12 01:38 AM

We run this setup on Tim's 427 and haven't seen any issues. I really like the e-curve. I don't know why they don't make a big block version. It would out sell the small block version by 5x. I asked MSD why they don't sell a big block version and they just said it was on the list of things to do someday.

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Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/09/12 04:04 AM

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We run this setup on Tim's 427 and haven't seen any issues. I really like the e-curve. I don't know why they don't make a big block version. It would out sell the small block version by 5x. I asked MSD why they don't sell a big block version and they just said it was on the list of things to do someday.



Per MSD, the early versions like AndyF have worked with the Solid State coil that is pictured above. But the newer version do not. As of the 2011 SEMA show, the SS coils did not work with E-Curves.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/09/12 04:09 AM

Good to know. I wasn't aware that they changed the distributor. I think these e-curves are the way to go for a street car. If they made a big block one I'd buy it. I like having 100 curves to pick from as well as having a digital vacuum advance. Super cool product.
Posted By: oldsklharo

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/09/12 10:45 PM

Anyone know what the time frame is with MSD making these for the BB.....if ever?

Also, does anyone else make a similar one with the same features for the BB?
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/09/12 11:30 PM

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Anyone know what the time frame is with MSD making these for the BB.....if ever?

Also, does anyone else make a similar one with the same features for the BB?




timeframe ... someday ...

If someone made one like it then there would be little need for it and it would only make someday become some year.
Posted By: phantomx

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/10/12 01:36 AM

I think everyone who would buy one needs to contact MSD and tell them. I'd buy one, and I intend on telling them that.
Travis..

EDIT, just tryed to contact them and couldn't find a contact email. I just registered on their forum and will post up a thread about a BB e-curve in their suggestion forum when my acct is activated.
Posted By: jbc426

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/10/12 09:57 AM

Maybe the Firecore guys will step up?
Posted By: oldsklharo

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/10/12 04:33 PM

Well I just called MSD again and they told me they have NO plans of making the E-Curve for the BB

Maybe I could get the SB one and have a BB shaft fit or machine one that will work? Whatcha think????
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/10/12 05:07 PM

If it was only that easy .

Buy one and see what is required to make it work spinning in the opposite direction that it's designed for and report back .
Posted By: oldsklharo

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/10/12 05:23 PM

I'm thinking about buying the E-Curve and an 8545 and swapping the shafts out somehow.......I'll call them again to see if the spinning in the opposite direction would effect the function of the E first though
Posted By: BradH

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/10/12 05:24 PM

Someone should do some investigating into Crane's 1000-1802/3 B/RB distributors and see if they'll do what you're looking for.

EDIT: This might help: http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Article/...plications.aspx
Posted By: oldsklharo

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/10/12 05:31 PM

I just talked to an MSD Tech guy and he says the E-Curve will definitely function properly spinning in the opposite direction of it's intended use. He also have me the P/N for the 8545 ready to run shaft instead of buying an entire dist.

So, I am going to pick up the SB E and the BB shaft and figure out a way to mate them properly

I'll report back once I get it figured out..........
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/10/12 11:36 PM

What is the part number for the smallblock E curve distributor ?
Posted By: Charger727

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/11/12 05:02 PM

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We run this setup on Tim's 427 and haven't seen any issues. I really like the e-curve. I don't know why they don't make a big block version. It would out sell the small block version by 5x. I asked MSD why they don't sell a big block version and they just said it was on the list of things to do someday.



Per MSD, the early versions like AndyF have worked with the Solid State coil that is pictured above. But the newer version do not. As of the 2011 SEMA show, the SS coils did not work with E-Curves.



Seems like a step in wrong direction?
Posted By: bobby66

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/11/12 05:13 PM

I wonder if the E-curve will get all rusty inside like the MSD distributor I already have.
Posted By: oldsklharo

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/11/12 05:40 PM

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What is the part number for the smallblock E curve distributor ?



SB # is 8504
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/11/12 06:48 PM

E-curve guts

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Posted By: JohnRR

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/11/12 11:17 PM

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E-curve guts



what's under the rotor ?
Posted By: ahy

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/12/12 01:31 AM

I'll just say whichever you pick, make sure it uses a common and available cap and rotor. I've got an earlier Accel "dual sync" distributor. It uses a Mallory 84 series cap and rotor. I finally found a local speed shop that could find replacements. The cap came from a warehouse outfit and rotor special order from Mallory. 2 weeks so far. Apparantly they had to make up a batch of them. All I can say about the cost is "ouch". Good thing my old one is still servicable.
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: MSD E-Curve for Mopar BB???? - 05/12/12 03:59 AM

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E-curve guts



what's under the rotor ?



You mean just under the red rotor? IIRC, just a support bar. No advance weights of course.

I believe the pickup sensor is under the computer circuit board.
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