1969 dart 340 4 speed

Posted By: hyefatman

1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 04:21 AM

looking at buying a 1969 dart 340 4 speed 4 barrel car - the guy who owns it says its a 6 pack car and only 50 made but the fender tag shows e55-- claims galien will verify 6 pack status-- has all the six pack stuff carbs intake and air cleaners -car also sports torque boxes any thoughts ?

Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 04:55 AM

340 SIX PACK intake didn't exist during the '69 model year -

340 4-spd a-body should have torque-boxes.

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 04:57 AM

Give us more specs on the car including the fender tag info.

Posted By: DartGTS

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 05:04 AM

Hello:
Dodge did not build a 340 6 pack Dart in any year.

Maynard

Posted By: hyefatman

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 05:09 AM

r11 v88 en1
b7 l2b b7 625 258713
e55 d21 lm23 p9b 431xxx

i emailed owner with fender tag decoded and waiting on what he is going to say - car is in parts but has fresh paint no rust - looks like all parts and trim will come with car

Posted By: JOES4FORTY

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 05:16 AM

This ought to be a good thread.

Posted By: DartGTS

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 05:27 AM

Hello:

E55: 340 cid 4 barrel V8 275hp
D21: 4 Speed Manual Transmission
B7: Medium Blue Metallic Exterior Color
12B: Trim - Unknown, Vinyl Bench Seat, Blue
B7: Medium Blue Metallic Int. Door Frames
625: Build Date: June 25
258713: Order number

R11: Unknown Top Color
V88: Tranverse Stripes, Deleted
EN1: End of Sales Codes

Maynard

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 05:30 AM

Trim is L2B so low line bench seat in blue. R11 is AM 2-watt radio. Very late build car, don't see many in B7! I love 4-speed Swingers with NO options, wonder why the guy wanted a radio?

Posted By: hyefatman

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 05:37 AM

still waiting on the owners email re the six pack stuff -

Posted By: big-block-dave

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 06:50 AM

Looks like a cool car....no 6pak.....watching

Posted By: mikeysmopars

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 07:53 AM

I went and looked at this car 5 or 6 years ago and it had a correct and origonal T/A challenger 6 pack on it at the time. Was blue with a white stripe, Nice car but he didn't want to sell it. He swore it was all factory and like some folks you can't tell them the truth.

Posted By: migsBIG

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 10:33 AM

The guy probably beloved there was once a 440 hemi in 1970 valiants also. When you have someone who does not know what they are selling and not listening to actual proof on the item, just leave and let them enjoy their fantasy ride.

Posted By: hyefatman

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 05:09 PM

ok here is the story - in late 1969 a dealer in Indiana got a prototype 6 pack set up Victor Edelbrock and installed it on 52 cars

Posted By: RobX4406

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 06:22 PM

Ahhh, the old Dealer installed but it's factory produced... got it! I really lije the Galen will verify it it, so what. John Delorean took a dump on the floor pan of my Dart, galen will register that too for $$$. LOL

Normal Swinger 340-4bbl car. Nothing more.

Posted By: DartGTS

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 06:51 PM

Hello:
Nothing special here,if you really want the car and can't live without it ok..... buy it.
Just forget about all the factory built and supplied stuff....and enjoy a 69 Dart.
If it were me i'd walk away....if he blowing smoke that hard what else is not right?

Maynard

Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 07:18 PM

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I really lije the Galen will verify it it, so what. John Delorean took a dump on the floor pan of my Dart, galen will register that too for $$$. LOL

Not the first time that acusation has been made, probally a lot of truth to that also. Money, the root of all evil

If you want to avoid evil send me all the money you don't want

Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 07:21 PM

Evaluate the car for what it is disregarding the six pack setup. It sounds like he's had this argument about the originality of the six pack for years. So it's pointless to get in another argument about it.

1) Investigate and take pictures to find out exactly what six pack setup is on it. Like is it and original T/A-AAR setup with the wide lip top lid? Is it and original date intake and carbs? Then find out what that is worth used.

2) And original 69 340 4spd carb is probably around 200-250 used, $35 rebuild kit, and an intake is $100.

1) minus 2) is what you can add to the value of the car. Or even if you don't go stock a used Performer RPM intake and new carb is about $400.

Be polite and come up with a price that fits the market for this car or what you can afford. If he refuses, move on. But don't burn the bridge he might call you back some day, because you are the only one that believed him.

Posted By: Jim_Lusk

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 08:05 PM

This isn't a car that I've heard about, but that's not surprising as most of the time I'm not looking around to see what's out there. The tone of this does sound like a certain guy I am familiar with...........Like said, check the dates on the intake and carbs.

It is very possible that a dealer installed it, possibly even to sell the car new (my 68 GTS with an SPD of 8/28/67 was first sold in May 1969, so if this one sat into the 1970 model year anything is possible). The six pack only adds its actual value to the value of the car. Sounds like it would be a fun car........

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/12/11 08:38 PM

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ok here is the story - in late 1969 a dealer in Indiana got a prototype 6 pack set up Victor Edelbrock and installed it on 52 cars

Does he have any documentation to back this claim up from the dealer or Edlebrock ?

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/13/11 01:59 AM

I talked with him on the phone about this car today, sounds like a cool car but the owner painted it purple throughout, so it ruined it for me.

B7 is such a rare color on 69 Darts and this being such a late built car would have been awesome! As said above, it is just a hot rod now and may look cool purple with a sixpak, but not worth what he is asking for it.

Posted By: OhioMopar

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/13/11 09:09 AM

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I talked with him on the phone about this car today, sounds like a cool car but the owner painted it purple throughout, so it ruined it for me. B7 is such a rare color on 69 Darts and this being such a late built car would have been awesome! As said above, it is just a hot rod now and may look cool purple with a sixpak, but not worth what he is asking for it.

What is it with cool blue colored cars being painted purple?

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/13/11 03:46 PM

Just ain't right, is it?

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/13/11 06:25 PM

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Just ain't right, is it?

The seller didn't try to pass the car off as being repainted by the dealer for the impending release of FC7 to go with the 6 pack addition ?

Posted By: DartGTS

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/13/11 09:13 PM

Hello:

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looking at buying a 1969 dart 340 4 speed 4 barrel car - the guy who owns it says its a 6 pack car and only 50 made but the fender tag shows e55-- claims galien will verify 6 pack status-- has all the six pack stuff carbs intake and air cleaners -car also sports torque boxes any thoughts ? ///
hyefatman said that...

I think the the main issue here especially for the Mopar newbies is don't jump on a what looks like a good or rare car until you research what it really is.
Regardless of what this seller claims until actual paper trail proof is established, it is just a 69 340 Dart.
Dealer installed options do not equal factory installations. Lots of items were dealer installed that does mot make it a rare car.
For instance I have a Edelbrock DP4B with Chrysler part number cast into it which I bought after market.
Just a few thoughts on buying Mopars...never was it truer "Buyer Beware" Congrats to hyefatman for having the good sense to check it out.

Maynard

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/13/11 10:11 PM

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Just ain't right, is it?

The seller didn't try to pass the car off as being repainted by the dealer for the impending release of FC7 to go with the 6 pack addition ?

I recently sold a 69 340 4-speed GTS to OhioMopar that was B5 originally and painted purple, oh the irony...

Posted By: GO_Fish

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/14/11 02:15 AM

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For instance I have a Edelbrock DP4B with Chrysler part number cast into it which I bought after market.

With the Edelbrock LD340's, those sold through Direct Connection over the dealer parts counter had the Chrysler P/n cast on them, where the same LD340's sold by speed shops did not have the Chrysler P/n on them. I suspect it is the same story with the DP4B you have. But as you may be suggesting, just because it has a Chrysler P/n on it, does not mean they ever came from the factory with that part.

Posted By: OhioMopar

Re: 1969 dart 340 4 speed - 12/15/11 09:48 AM

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Just ain't right, is it?

The seller didn't try to pass the car off as being repainted by the dealer for the impending release of FC7 to go with the 6 pack addition ?

I recently sold a 69 340 4-speed GTS to OhioMopar that was B5 originally and painted purple, oh the irony...

Guess I should explain the inside joke next time!Lol.