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Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? #2594391
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This is very interesting. 93 pump gas, 1000 HP, 950 Tq

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopar-mo...-show-mtsema18/

I have a nice KOS A body this would look good in which would take the power, even with a 727.

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: Airwoofer] #2594411
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Same size as a Demon.


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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: DemonDust] #2594427
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Yes it will fit....They got a Hellcrate in one..If you send me one, I will prove it. Got the perfect car for one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlQJJDqXhq0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: Airwoofer] #2594659
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Demon fits just fine in a duster.



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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: DemonDust] #2594810
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Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



How are you mounting the alternator?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: Dragula] #2594858
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Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



How are you mounting the alternator?


Down low on the driver's side. You can see the slot.


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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: DemonDust] #2595216
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Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



How are you mounting the alternator?


Down low on the driver's side. You can see the slot.


Don't know if this has been asked before but what happened to your R5 P7 engine?

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: MattW] #2595217
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2 months to complete.
Forgot to secure the passenger side weather seal.
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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: MattW] #2595439
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Originally Posted By MattW
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



How are you mounting the alternator?


Down low on the driver's side. You can see the slot.


Don't know if this has been asked before but what happened to your R5 P7 engine?


Sold it in spring. My dad is getting into cars finally. He bought a 72 demon. So I figured I'd turn my car back into a street car and enjoy life. Go cruising with the old man. Track life was fun, but I was usually going by myself. It gets old.


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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: Airwoofer] #2595914
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So you are putting that motor into a street car? Which tranny will you use? My car has run at 1250 crank HP with the 3 sp727 (that was OK at refresh by PTC) would probably be a good choice ( not an 8 speed), or a glide. I live close to a good track and KOS is a valid class on a few races.

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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: Airwoofer] #2596028
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I am assuming you made the engine plate yourself?

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Yes, it will be a true street car again. Going with a Reid Super glide, hopefully that will give a good SLR at the track and still be fairly decent on the street just cruising.


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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: Dragula] #2596034
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Originally Posted By Dragula
I am assuming you made the engine plate yourself?


The engine plate is a combination of Bob Ettes work and mine. He had all the homework done on the timing cover and water pump stuff. I machined the all the SC stuff into it. Going to digitize the whole thing and it will be part of the kit.


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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: DemonDust] #2596178
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Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Dragula
I am assuming you made the engine plate yourself?


The engine plate is a combination of Bob Ettes work and mine. He had all the homework done on the timing cover and water pump stuff. I machined the all the SC stuff into it. Going to digitize the whole thing and it will be part of the kit.

Kit?...did I miss something in this thread?


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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: RapidusMaximus] #2596209
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Originally Posted By RapidusMaximus
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Dragula
I am assuming you made the engine plate yourself?


The engine plate is a combination of Bob Ettes work and mine. He had all the homework done on the timing cover and water pump stuff. I machined the all the SC stuff into it. Going to digitize the whole thing and it will be part of the kit.

Kit?...did I miss something in this thread?


I've completed a kit for the restomod guys, so they can adapt one of the many hellcat SCs laying around to a 5.7, 6.1, or 6.4. Working on variations as well, to not have to use the motorplate. Have not advertised yet, as I'm still working on price and production.

It will also work with Demon and Hellephant SC, should you obtain one of those.


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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: DemonDust] #2596294
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Sign me up for one....Been wanting a Hell crate in one of my cars for a while.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: Airwoofer] #2600498
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This table has the part number. How much will these engines and the install kit cost?

What is involved to mate a Gen 3 to a 727? Second choice would be a glide.

[img]https://www.hellcat.org/attachments/hellephant-specs-jpg.484861/[/img]

motor: PN 77072492 install kit PN 77072500

What shop wants to be the phirst to put one of these in a street / strip KOS 71 Demon?

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The only thing you need is a special flex plate to go from Gen 3 to 727. You can get them pretty much from any of the speed shops now.

If you're putting this in a Demon you'll also need these so you don't have to chop up your firewall.






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Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? [Re: Airwoofer] #2601044
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What is that for? I no nothing about gen 3.

Yeah, if this looks like a good idea, it will go into my 71 Demon that is already pretty racy but is driven to the track and around.

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Originally Posted By Airwoofer
What is that for? I no nothing about gen 3.

Yeah, if this looks like a good idea, it will go into my 71 Demon that is already pretty racy but is driven to the track and around.


When installing a hellcat, demon, or hellephant in a A or B body the water manifold on the rear of the SC will hit the firewall. Many guys have chopped their firewall's up. I saw a need for these so I designed these to take the place of the factory water manifold. They are 1.5" shorter than the factory manifold, which gains you the room you need and not chop up the firewall.


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