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Ever had a track refuse to pay out a guaranteed amount? #3228428
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KID in Wichita re-opened and here we are, second event of the season. Opening day was HUGE and they made lots of money. Second event that's a heads up style deal and they pull this! Put the track manager in a really bad spot as he announced in the driver meeting just before eliminations that they had no checks!


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10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

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Originally Posted by GY3
KID in Wichita re-opened and here we are, second event of the season. Opening day was HUGE and they made lots of money. Second event that's a heads up style deal and they pull this! Put the track manager in a really bad spot as he announced in the driver meeting just before eliminations that they had no checks!
up Pay me in cash, please boogie up devil


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No checks as in nobody got anything? Or was the purse paid but cut? If the word guaranteed was on the schedule or flyer that is definitely a problem.

I went to a 5K race one time and there was only a handful of cars. Was stinking hot and they scheduled it without thinking about other events close by that same weekend. The owner apologized to us and left us race for 100 percent payout of our entry fees and gave us free ice cream. laugh2


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Its happened to me twice. I ran Quaker City a few times a year They had a N/SS race. There was low turn out. After winning they offered $100. I asked to talk to the track owner and negotiated 50% of th epayout and free entry to Sundays race. Then they cancelled Sundays race. Said I could run the Gamblers race. Went 5 rds to the last 3 cars. I was told they only pay out W & R/U, so no cash. That was the last time I ever made the 4 1/2 hr trip (one way) to Quaker. Also happened at Kentucky Dragway. It was a two day event. Many racers left Saturday night. The owner brought the remaining racers together and told us he had to reduce the purse. He had the racers vote on racing for reduced purse or cancelling. We voted to run. I won that event as well.
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When "Jay" ran Woodburn, OR drag strip back in the mid 2000s he was the cheapest track manager that I had ran into while drag racing since 1964 rant down
I went to his end of the season race in October of 2005, I enter Pro bracket and went to the 1/4 finals on Sunday, $75.00 entry fee for both days,170+ cars entered into the Pro bracket racing on Sunday. I went up the tower to get paid, it was my first race there, and was told they didn't pay 1/4 finals shock When I asked about what they paid exactly they told me they only paid winner and runner ups. I ask how much they paid I was told $150. and $75.00, talk about being greedy and cheap down rant puke
I'm not sure what the total entries were that weekend as they had all three NHRA brackets as well as several other specialty groups racing like stick shift cars and other non bracket cars, maybe including Stock and Super Stock shoot ou shruggyt

170 times $75.00 = $12,750.00 plus all the other entry fees.
I decided I would not go back there for any of their regular races down boogie hammer
The announcer made mention that Jay would be going to Hawaii for the winter in his 2nd home over their after that race down mad rant hammer

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Re: Ever had a track refuse to pay out a guaranteed amount? [Re: GY3] #3228709
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In the 70's there was an 1/8 mile track in Sullivan Missouri. Track owner tried to get out of paying a purse, racers beat the windows out of his Lincoln Continental.

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I would have to read the tracks payout page or flyer before I judge. I’ll just say that tracks can’t continue to lose money or they will shut the doors.


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I have had payouts reduced because of car count. Here that's the norm now. But I will say if anyone out thee is doing this for the money they should likely reexamine their hobby of choice. Winning money is great and all but if it the driving force and you are not a traveling pro running the big dollar stuff it's just fluff to attract people. In the heads up world ANY payout MIGHT cover travel for the weekend for the most part. Just my .02 and I am 100% sure it will ruffle feathers.


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Track sure has a nice facebook page

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First year I raced at 41 I got runner up in Run Tuff one Sunday. They gave out checks and I deposited mine the next morning.

Couple weeks later the guy that won asked me if the check I got was any good. His bounced as did a bunch of other ones. I guess you could call that reduced payout.


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I don't do it strickly for money. However I wouldn't travel a long distance for poor payout either. No sense spending $1000 in fuel and entry to win $1000. Might as well stay closer to home for the same, equal. or even greater payout. If it wasn't for winnings and side work I couldn't field the car I run on my own. I likthe hobby. If I didn't I wouldn't work so hard to do everything myself and work to support it.
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Originally Posted by moparacer
No checks as in nobody got anything? Or was the purse paid but cut? If the word guaranteed was on the schedule or flyer that is definitely a problem.

I went to a 5K race one time and there was only a handful of cars. Was stinking hot and they scheduled it without thinking about other events close by that same weekend. The owner apologized to us and left us race for 100 percent payout of our entry fees and gave us free ice cream. laugh2
I'm guessing my home track Numidia.

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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


Track sure has a nice facebook page


Not the same one.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

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Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


Track sure has a nice facebook page


Not the same one.




I took a guess since you didn’t say.


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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


Track sure has a nice facebook page


Not the same one.




I took a guess since you didn’t say.


I did. It's literally the first sentence. KID in Wichita.

Kansas International Dragway.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

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Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


Track sure has a nice facebook page


Not the same one.




I took a guess since you didn’t say.


I did. It's literally the first sentence. KID in Wichita.

Kansas International Dragway.



Whoops. Never heard of it.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




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Originally Posted by dvw
I don't do it strickly for money. However I wouldn't travel a long distance for poor payout either. No sense spending $1000 in fuel and entry to win $1000. Might as well stay closer to home for the same, equal. or even greater payout. If it wasn't for winnings and side work I couldn't field the car I run on my own. I likthe hobby. If I didn't I wouldn't work so hard to do everything myself and work to support it.
Doug
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Then imagine how dumb we are. Leaving for St Louis on Monday, 3500 mile round trip. Even IF we won it might barely cover the cost of fuel, and food. Then there is hotels, fuel for the car, wear and tear, tires etc etc. We were runner up in St Louis last year left with enoug to cover part of the fuel bill...


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race cars are usually not a sound financial investment. Birdtracker

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Originally Posted by birdtracker
race cars are usually not a sound financial investment. Birdtracker
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


Track sure has a nice facebook page
Not the same track.

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