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Pro Stock anyone? #2428736
01/04/18 04:54 AM
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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428770
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it's dead.... there's no going back. If you put pro mod in there, in a short time it will be dead too. In a way technology has killed the sport. Drag racing has always been a "keep up with the joneses" in the heads up categories and the cost to do that has weeded out all the "kind of / sort of" teams. In the past there were always the teams that were there for the "fun of it" in a way... There was a good story awhile back about prostock and the competitors along the way and the waves of dominance throughout the years with a single or couple of "players" that often were a shoe in for the winners circle, yet... there were 30+ other teams showing up to "try". Those "extras" have dwindled to next to nothing. From my now "old guy" prospective my first national event was at Brainerd in the mid 80's. Tons of cars in the class, and tons of builders/tuners. Now what is it... 2, 3?? At that event Whit Bazemore showed up towing his Chapparal trailer with a spare body strapped to the top.... cool stuff we'll never see again. There was also another top fuel team from Minnesota. All they ran was Brainerd, Topeka, and "if" they did good they might hit Denver or Indy.... back when a smallish group of guys could take a swing at the big boys and at least give it a try. cool stuff.

I hope they can make some sort of "comeback" in the pro stock ranks, but I have no idea how that would ever happen. Maybe some "pie in the sky" purses might help, but where is the money tree for that??

Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428780
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They are just beating a dead horse. Pull the plug already.


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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428788
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I attended the No Mercy race in Valdosta (SGMP) last October. Full house, full pits and lots of energy. This is the future. Class racing, as cool as it is, is the past. Pro Stock is a dinosaur.

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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428797
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Pro Stock is over its Pro Camaro going forward

Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428886
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It's "No Stock" now. C-ya

Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428938
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From the Freeman article below. This speaks volumes about what NHRA thinks of the class. So what's this fund the 17th and 18th Top Fuel cars? Non-qualifier money now?

In an unpublished adjustment to the purse, NHRA reportedly took $1,000 per round won and the winner, instead of getting the standard $25,000 has been reduced to $20,000. The money taken away is said to be going into the Top Fuel purse to fund the 17th and 18th entries.

Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428954
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A positive mental attitude won't fix Pro Stock just like EFI, no hood scoops and rev limits didn't fix Pro Stock.


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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428961
01/04/18 04:45 PM
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Dave you can lease Derik Kramers Dart from last year. They will transport and supply HP. "Poor" mans way to run PS. He don't need the car since they are going to KB power and Camaro now..


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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2428962
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BTW Freemans long time engine guy has left Freeman and will be starting his own engine shop soon..


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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Al_Alguire] #2429000
01/04/18 06:12 PM
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I just thought it was interesting that they would sell "any of their" engines. I think NHRA already has had a lesson with this model and didn't learn a thing. Remember the "Import Nats."? The "Extreme Series"? There was also some interesting comments from guys at the bottom of the story...

Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2429009
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the 10500 chip combined with EFI killed the Hemi more than anything else, it's a moot point now but if they would have delayed the stupid EFI/rev limit one more year the Elite mopars may have become competitive along with AJ and kept it somewhat interesting with at least some Mopar/Camaro Parity.

Ironically, I remember they said they implemented the 10.5K to lower costs and make things more competitive.....The hemi's higher HP cieling was it's only advantage so...there you go....I guess somebody really wanted it to be Pro Camaro after all.

If it were me, I'd toss the Cubic Inch limit and go back to some kind of LB/CI formula, or go Ballz to the wall and let's see some production based LS, Coyote and Hemis or even turbo V6's, or maybe small inch DRCE and Hemis and even some mountain motors....whatever!!! And let's at least see who gets creative. Pro mod is at least interesting because of the variety, so get some excitement back in the game and side by side and let it go back to the late 70's early 80's style 'Wild West' for a few years, Heck at least that would be interesting. That era of NHRA/IHRA (from say 75 to 85) was the most exciting and fun era of all pro stock.

too late to fix now, the ship has sailed. I no longer care

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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Streetwize] #2429011
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The rev limit had to be the stupidest rule ever! I mean, really? Why? What was the thought process there? Were Pro Stock cars throwing the rods out at the stripe?

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Pro Stock is going to be like the IROC series : All the same car ( Camaro) just different paint job…. No Mopar=No interest…. just like Nascar


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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: 11secdart] #2429053
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Originally Posted By 11secdart
Pro Stock is going to be like the IROC series : All the same car ( Camaro) just different paint job…. No Mopar=No interest…. just like Nascar
Agree

Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: scottb] #2429264
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Originally Posted By scottb
Originally Posted By 11secdart
Pro Stock is going to be like the IROC series : All the same car ( Camaro) just different paint job…. No Mopar=No interest…. just like Nascar
Agree

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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: Dave Hall] #2429544
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Got to do the Mid-West deal if your going to try to have any fun at Pro Stock... Just my 2 cents...

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Re: Pro Stock anyone? [Re: cudadoug] #2429559
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It really upsets me that the NHRA takes money from the racers while the guys at the top pull down large six figure salaries and yet fail to do a good job.

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I see NHRA changed some rules this week , They are now going to allow different manufactures engines in cars. So that means Ford and Mopar can be competitive again using rented Chevy engines from the Summit team. NHRA must think it works for the Funny car class it would work for Pro Stock. Do they really think that Ford or Mopar manufacture would put up money to sponsor a car with a Chevy engine in it?


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Originally Posted By rowin4
I see NHRA changed some rules this week , They are now going to allow different manufactures engines in cars. So that means Ford and Mopar can be competitive again using rented Chevy engines from the Summit team. NHRA must think it works for the Funny car class it would work for Pro Stock. Do they really think that Ford or Mopar manufacture would put up money to sponsor a car with a Chevy engine in it?


It was the teams that requested this to happen. This removes the "aero advantage" or the " engine advantage"


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