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DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS #2510644
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Reported on Facebook group small block mopar and cylinder head tech. Mason Baxter has confirmed DART will be making small block mopar blocks. Two different deck heights 340 mains 48 and 59 degree GREAT NEWS

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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510682
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Awesome news

Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510687
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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510711
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This is good news, we need to thank Bob Book and Mason Baxter for pushing this



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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510717
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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510732
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Great news, but I'm kinda surprised. I figured there'd be more of a market for aftermarket big blocks.


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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2510741
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
Great news, but I'm kinda surprised. I figured there'd be more of a market for aftermarket big blocks.





I do not know Bob Book but these guys need blocks BAD. They agressively aproached Dart after giving Dart the info on how many Mopar guys need blocks. Between A Bodies only, Moparts, and Facebook they showed Dart how many guys are interested. I hope it happenes but if it does happen I hope the Mopar guys come through and do there part. It sounds like Dart wants to start out with two blocks that will be popular with MOST of the engines that we are now building.


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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510742
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Mason Baxter has confirmed DART likes money and attention.

This is not an oath, or a contract. He put his toe in the water to see how much interest there is. If he doesn't get what his accountant tells him (regardless of how accurate it is) will support the R&D (how many thousand units at what price yields how much profit) he'll walk away.
Questions that matter:
"Will deposits and pre-pays guarantee delivery at the stated price?"
"Will this money be in escrow until delivery?".

Way too many of these announcements are a re-play of "Lucy and the football".


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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510748
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John, I agree the SB guys have a real problem getting ANY decent block to build a good engine with. Glad Dart has stepped up! I just thought the BB market would be bigger. Considering the only 2 options BB guys have are Indy or KB, but both being aluminum and expensive. Granted that's more than the SB guys have now. I'm assuming Dart will be making these in cast iron and probably (hopefully) under $4k.


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'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510749
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Yes but Dart has a good history and unlike KB for example isnt on the ropes with a line of BS and deception a mile long.

Id have no issues on a deposit to dart as long as a plan was laid out before hand but still knowing there can be variables on a new product.

Id hit one, maybe two, I think its hard to beat modern tech and production ways when its done properly with performance in mind.

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Like I said I don't know Bob Book but the words out of his mouth are, the block he needs right now WON'T be one of the two made bucause of the custom block that he needs. But he sounds like a smart man that knows once in production a tweek here and a tweek there it COULD be made down the road.


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Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: 71Pan] #2510785
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This is a big deal. Without new blocks IMO the small block mopar was close to end of life.

There is speculation that this will spur the development of more cylinder heads but that is just that, speculation.

I would be surprised if Dart accepts orders until they are ready to ship finished parts but I get surprised a lot.

Mr. Book builds some pretty potent engines. He has been breaking R blocks with fast NA engines in Australian Pro Stock and Comp Eliminator.

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I hope this actually happens. I am really surprised with the pending sale of Dart it is happening at all, or even is announced before the new ownership takes over. They will be keeping Maskin I hear but in the end it is a dollars and cents thing.


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If the block doesn't cost $999.99 or less, come absolutely perfect for your particular combo and have every bell and whistle I doubt he'll sell 10 blocks to the general public.

The Chrysler people are the cheapest people out there. They can run 10's one stock block and that's good enough.

If they get made, and made for more than 1 production run I'd be stunned.


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Hopefully there is a bigger market than most think. I have heard the blueprint engine chevy blocks they use in their crate engines are made by dart. Maybe they could do the same with their mopar crates.

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Originally Posted By madscientist
If the block doesn't cost $999.99 or less, come absolutely perfect for your particular combo and have every bell and whistle I doubt he'll sell 10 blocks to the general public.

The Chrysler people are the cheapest people out there. They can run 10's one stock block and that's good enough.

If they get made, and made for more than 1 production run I'd be stunned.
I for one have no problem paying for a good block so were not all cheap a$$ like you think

Re: DART AGREES TO MAKING SB MOPAR BLOCKS [Re: scottb] #2510867
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I don't think it's that Mopar people are cheap. I think they are sick of paying double what other makes cost and being treated like the manufacturer is doing you a favor. If they offer the block at a REASONABLE price point, they will sell. No doubt it will be more than a SBC because the volume will be less.

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